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From: abeles@mhuxm.UUCP (abeles)
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Subject: Re: Re: "Jewish State" vs. "state for the Jews"
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Date: Tue, 19-Feb-85 19:26:33 EST
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> > A Jewish State is one where Jews govern themselves.Judaism is not a 
> > religion, it is an entire way of life.  Ergo, what Jews do is Jewish.
> > (J. Abeles)
> 
>   NOT REALLY, some Jews do things that are really not very Jewish at all,
> like convert to Christianity. Do you mean that any act that a Jew performs
> is inherently 'Jewish' ?   (A. Gross)

What the bulk of Jews do is by definition the Jewish way.  If the bulk
of Jews fail to embrace Orthodoxy, Orthodoxy will go the way of the
dinosaur.  Maybe Orthodox folks interested in preserving their way of
life ought to be more polite!

Seriously, most of the readers of this article are probably aware that
there have been in history extreme right-wing Jewish sects which, similar
to some of what Gross, Teitz, Meth, Schechter, Saal, Feldblum, and Samet
have said (and which is accepted by a small minority of Jews today)
amounts to an extreme viewpoint that is rejected by the majority.

By the way, I object to the use of the term "Torah" as a code-word
for "Right-wing Orthodox."  All Jews are "Torah Jews."  The fact
that that notorious rag, "The Jewish Press," appears to be the main
coiner of the expression gives me a warm feeling inside.

--J. Abeles