Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cvl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!cvl!arig From: arig@cvl.UUCP (Ari Gross) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: Calling all Self-Righteous Orthodox (and I mean Right) Message-ID: <73@cvl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Feb-85 20:28:11 EST Article-I.D.: cvl.73 Posted: Thu Feb 21 20:28:11 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 26-Feb-85 20:33:05 EST References: <3780011@csd2.UUCP> <323@mhuxm.UUCP> Organization: Computer Vision Lab, U. of Maryland, College Park Lines: 34 > > The laws were the same age old Biblical laws that G-d gave to Moshe. > > Of course there were periods during biblical times that saw Jews > > transgress the Torah, but the overall general rule was Torah > > Judaism (Orthodoxy). (A. Schechter) > > I object to the co-opting of the word "Torah" to describe > Orthodoxy. This is wrong, as the Torah was given to all Jews, > not just Orthodox Jews such as Schechter and friends. > > There is no justification for connecting Orthodoxy with biblical > forms of Judaism. Orthodoxy is simply one heir to biblical > Jewish culture. Anyone who says otherwise please let me know > which prophet has personally told you -- until then I'm a bit > more open-minded. Try to distinguish between fact and belief! > > --J. Abeles To make a simple distinction, the Torah was given to all Jews (as you so aptly state). Orthodoxy, however, is the only true extension of biblical Judaism. Clearly, in the times of the Bible Jews ate only Kosher food (both in and out of the house). Is there any other sect of Judaism today whose adherents without exception abide by this very clear Biblical precept ? Or, perchance you believe that King David used to frequent McDonald's on the sly ? Respectfully yours, Ari Gross arig@cvl.arpa