Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!mhuxm!abeles From: abeles@mhuxm.UUCP (abeles) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: Calling all Self-Righteous Orthodox (and I mean Right) Message-ID: <328@mhuxm.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Feb-85 15:13:37 EST Article-I.D.: mhuxm.328 Posted: Mon Feb 25 15:13:37 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Feb-85 07:50:39 EST References: <3780011@csd2.UUCP> <323@mhuxm.UUCP> <73@cvl.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Murray Hill, NJ Lines: 24 > > There is no justification for connecting Orthodoxy with biblical > > forms of Judaism. Orthodoxy is simply one heir to biblical > > Jewish culture. Anyone who says otherwise please let me know > > which prophet has personally told you -- until then I'm a bit > > more open-minded. Try to distinguish between fact and belief! > > (J. Abeles) > > To make a simple distinction, the Torah was given to all Jews (as > you so aptly state). Orthodoxy, however, is the only true extension of > biblical Judaism. Clearly, in the times of the Bible Jews ate only > Kosher food (both in and out of the house). Is there any other sect > of Judaism today whose adherents without exception abide by this > very clear Biblical precept ? Or, perchance you believe that King > David used to frequent McDonald's on the sly ? (Ari Gross) Orthodoxy certainly does NOT constitute "a sect of Judaism today whose adherents without exception abide by this very clear Biblical precept." Nobody "excommunicates" orthodox Jews who don't follow the laws of kashrut as he or she happens to interpret them. In fact, there is quite some latitude within the definitions of what Orthodox Jews on the one hand will eat, and on the other hand will condemn someone else for eating. These remarks of Avi Gross are without foundation. --J. Abeles