Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sfmag.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!mhuxv!mhuxh!mhuxi!mhuxm!sftig!sftri!sfmag!samet From: samet@sfmag.UUCP (A.I.Samet) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Halacha as Misnomer? Message-ID: <511@sfmag.UUCP> Date: Thu, 28-Feb-85 20:06:04 EST Article-I.D.: sfmag.511 Posted: Thu Feb 28 20:06:04 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Mar-85 21:25:30 EST References: <16@unc.UUCP> <3780010@csd2.UUCP> <874@cbdkc1.UUCP>, <502@sfmag.UUCP> <273@lcuxc.UUCP> <306@lcuxc.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Summit, NJ Lines: 52 > References: <16@unc.UUCP> <3780010@csd2.UUCP> <874@cbdkc1.UUCP>, <502@sfmag.UUCP> <273@lcuxc.UUCP> >>> Would you perhaps like to inform some of us well-intentioned >>> people of the "extent of the misnomer," i.e., Conservatism using >>> the term "halacha"? Try if possible to avoid the comments about >>> driving to shul on Saturday; counting women in a minyan; and the >>> RA's admission of women rabbis to membership. I for one would >>> like to hear some new variations. I'd like to know a bit more >>> about how I imperil my share of the Olam Haba by davening on >>> Shabbos in a Conservative shul (not temple). (Ken Wolman) >> The misnomer is roughly similar to calling your remarks >> "well-intentioned".(Y. Samet) >That's not an answer. (Ken Wolman) Ken- You sound sincere. Your question was permeated with a tone of mockery. The Talmud classifies what's called "ha shoel al mnas lekanter" - one who asks to scorn rather than to understand. It's a waste of time to engage in discussion someone whose sole intention is to mock. My original statement was: >To someone who has invested years in yeshiva, studying the >Talmud, etc. the exploitation of the term "halacha" by >conservativism is a colossal deception. It's like equating "witch >doctors" with medical doctors. > >Many sincere people, like the writer of the above article, would >be shocked to discover the extent of the misnomer. A thorough discussion of this subject requires and deserves much time, which I didn't have. My alternative was to briefly share a personal reaction with other Jews. Did you expect an extensive explanation in response to your mocking? My concise answer to you hinted at the essence of the issue: Just as sincerity and mock sincerity are similar on the surface, but true opposites in essence, so too with Halacha and conservative mock-halacha. One is a vast encyclopedic, normative discipline rooted in Divine revelation as a fundamental, the other a cheap expedient revolving around M*N and his desires (god-in-search-of-M*N-ism). Perhaps I'll expand on this when time allows doing justice to the subject. Yitzchok Samet