Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site topaz.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!topaz!@RUTGERS.ARPA:francini%cygnus.DEC@decwrl.ARPA From: @RUTGERS.ARPA:francini%cygnus.DEC@decwrl.ARPA Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Star Trek II on ABC Message-ID: <775@topaz.ARPA> Date: Mon, 25-Feb-85 01:10:23 EST Article-I.D.: topaz.775 Posted: Mon Feb 25 01:10:23 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Feb-85 05:41:53 EST Sender: daemon@topaz.ARPA Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 49 From: francini%cygnus.DEC@decwrl.ARPA (Rabbit, you're - you're despicable!!) I just watched Star Trek II on ABC this evening. I wasn't expecting a good presentation, knowing how networks love to chop things up. I really thought that things were bad when the words 'Edited for Television' appeared after the opening credits. I was rather surprised. For the most part, the commercial breaks were well-placed, coming (mostly) at logical points in the plot of the movie (except for the last few that took place in the middle of the end battle, which should have been shown in its entirety). I didn't really notice that very much was cut out, which was also heartening. What was most upsetting, however, was the fact that there was SEVERAL MINUTES OF NEVER-SEEN-BEFORE FOOTAGE IN THE PRESENTATION!! There was a whole lot of MEANINGFUL dialog that NEVER made it to the wide screen or to cable or to videotape/disk. Some of the extra bits seen tonight for the first time: * Extra lines in the Kobayashi Maru (sp?) simulation scene * More dialog in the scene where McCoy gives Kirk his glasses in Kirk's apartment * We find out that Peter Preston is (1) Scotty's grandson or some such, and (2) has a big lip for such an underling. * More dialog in the scene where Khan meets Chekov and the Reliant captain * More dialog between Kirk, McCoy and Scotty in Sick Bay when Peter Preston dies, explaining WHY Scotty was upset to tears. And on, and on, throughout the movie. The question that comes to this observer is: WHY did the NETWORKS end up with this 'augmented' version? Why didn't this end up in the theaters? Or cable? Or videodisk/tape? The second one of course is when WILL it? John Francini, DEC Maynard p.s. My favorite new line is spoken by Spock in the beginning of the battle scene in the Mutara Nebula. When asked by Savvik why Kirk knew that Khan would follow the Enterprise into the nebula, he replied, "Remind me to tell you sometime about the concept of the human ego." Warp speed.