Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site ittvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!qumix!ittvax!hagouel From: hagouel@ittvax.UUCP (Jack Hagouel) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Responsibility for birth control Message-ID: <1635@ittvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 28-Feb-85 10:09:24 EST Article-I.D.: ittvax.1635 Posted: Thu Feb 28 10:09:24 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Mar-85 00:36:28 EST References: <3850001@csd2.UUCP> <8283@watarts.UUCP> Organization: ITT-ATC, Stratford Ct. Lines: 40 Judy Belya writes: > In a recent all-female wine & chat the conversation turned to sexual > etiquette. A casual poll was taken. . . . > If > at the end of a marriage or significant relationship a woman goes into > seclusion and stops using birth control whose responsibility is it if > two people meet and are *swept away*? From our poll, we discovered that > the men definitely have decided it's our responsibility. Both the precaution > and the consequences. Things don't seem to have changed much after all. In general I agree with Judy but there are some important nuances that have been disreguarded. From my experience, and I don't ask, if the woman uses no contraception she will bring it up; then it is *both* our responsibility to deal with precautions, even if that implies abstinence. It is a matter of etiquette rather than insensitivity. As it is customary for men to ask women out, it is customary for women to bring up birth control before sex if necessary. Most single women today use some form of birth control, so the question is (unromantic :-) and) unnecessary. When two adults get "swept away" they are equally responsible for their actions. If there are unpleasant consequences that the partners of Judy's friends refused to deal with, then this says something about their character rather than the male gendre. There *are* a lot of nice men. It is part of the laws of nature that physically women suffer most as a result of mistakes. Ultimately, it is to their best interest to enforce prevention of mistakes. Do not misunderstand this statement, it is not meant to take responsibility off the shoulders of men; but when a bad apple comes by the woman should not sulk and cry because she can *do* something about it. -- Jack Hagouel ..!ittvax!hagouel (203) 929-7341