Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!amdcad!decwrl!sun!dgh From: dgh@sun.uucp (David Hough) Newsgroups: net.legal,net.taxes Subject: Re: Abuse of social contracts. (tax system) Message-ID: <1998@sun.uucp> Date: Mon, 18-Feb-85 21:16:21 EST Article-I.D.: sun.1998 Posted: Mon Feb 18 21:16:21 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Feb-85 10:48:14 EST References: <2748@dartvax.UUCP> <445@ahuta.UUCP> <399@lsuc.UUCP> <110@styx.UUCP> <687@amdcad.UUCP> Reply-To: dgh@sun.UUCP (David Hough) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 33 Xref: utcs net.legal:1420 net.taxes:618 Summary: In article <687@amdcad.UUCP> phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) writes: > >What's wrong with using taxes to achieve policy objectives? >Surely you would agree it is a good thing for the government to >encourage the use of alternative energy sources? In stimulating >a new market, the government can either give direct subsidies >or tax breaks. I don't see much difference. Actually, I prefer >having the tax breaks so I don't have to deal with as many government >agencies. > > Phil Ngai (408) 749-5720 > UUCP: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra}!amdcad!phil > ARPA: amdcad!phil@decwrl.ARPA What's wrong is that the most important feature our tax system might have has been lost, and it is not now PERCEIVED as JUST or FAIR. Economists may legitimately argue about whether it IS just or fair, but it's pretty generally PERCEIVED otherwise. A major reason for this perception is that the tax code is enormously complex, and those who have the means need not pay income taxes if they choose not to. Ordinary working people do not have the means and the system is not voluntary for them. Politicians often pretend that the "loopholes" were some sort of accidental oversight, but one person's loophole is another person's device to achieve legitimate policy objectives. There is scarcely a clause in the IRC that does not have a vociferous constituency whenever anyone threatens to reform it. To conclude, a very simple flat tax with no deductions, no credits, and only a simple per capita exemption would be correctly perceived by everyone. Graduated rates would be acceptable too (to me at least) as long as the simplicity were retained. David Hough