Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sphinx.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxb!houxm!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!see1 From: see1@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (ellen keyne seebacher) Newsgroups: net.tv.drwho Subject: the Doctor's name Message-ID: <210@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Feb-85 14:13:57 EST Article-I.D.: sphinx.210 Posted: Mon Feb 25 14:13:57 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Feb-85 08:03:25 EST Organization: U. Chicago - Computation Center Lines: 46 In "the Armageddon Factor" --last show of the Key to Time series-- the other Time Lord (with the Cockney accent, whom I believe was called Drax) calls the Doctor "Thete" (short for the Greek letter Theta, which was apparently a school nickname at the Academy). NOT "Pete" !! I would not consider the first Doctor's alias of "Dr. Foreman" to be a "mention of the Doctor's name" any more than we think Pertwee is serious when he introduces himself as "Dr. John Smith"... I don't know what fanzine the tidbit that "the Doctor's name is '______'" came from, but it is clearly non-canonical. Despite what the book version of the Master's first appearance (whatever that episode was) says, the Master's name has not, to my knowledge, been mentioned either. Hypothesis: 1. No 'defected' Time Lord -- and here I include the monk of "Planet of the Spiders," along with the Master and characters such as the Meddling Monk of an early episode, who was clearly a Time Lord -- has ever has his/ her name mentioned. (Romanadvoratrelundar was on a mission for the Guardian until she decided to stay in E-Space, after which we don't KNOW what name she may have taken...see below.) 2. When the Master is referred to by other Time Lords, it's "he (now) _calls himself_ the Master," and our hero tells us he's _called_ the Doctor. Clearly these would be pretty strange names to give your children, but that isn't the point...I think that when a Time Lord/Lady leaves Gallifreyan society, he/she is bound to take a new name (by honor? unwillingness to keep an aristocratic name? custom? Gallifreyan law?)... Perhaps if he'd stayed at the end of "5 Doctors" we'd have not "Lord President Doctor," but his old name back... Anyway, I don't want to flame anybody and I realize this may have all sorts of holes in it (I know you'll point them out), but I think this ridiculous notion of "the Doctor's name is...." has got to be put to rest. -- ellen keyne seebacher ...ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!see1 university of chicago computation center "...and to my Democratic precinct (x9.xes@UChicago.Mailnet) captain, I leave my vote."