Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site sunybcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!rocksvax!sunybcs!hobbit From: hobbit@sunybcs.UUCP (Thomas Pellitieri) Newsgroups: net.tv.drwho Subject: Re: Why "Logopolis" sucked (Regenerations!) Message-ID: <1241@sunybcs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 28-Feb-85 10:46:56 EST Article-I.D.: sunybcs.1241 Posted: Thu Feb 28 10:46:56 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Mar-85 09:27:23 EST References: <238@looking.UUCP> <345@abnji.UUCP> Organization: State University of New York @ Buffalo,NY Lines: 53 In <345@abnji.UUCP> James C. Armstrong (>) responds to Brad Templeton (>>), saying: >>3) The regeneration. >> >>This was super strange. Why did they change the whole sequence? This watcher >>deal has not shown up in any other regeneration, nor the idea the doctor knew >>what was coming. "He was the doctor all along" - I m glad they say this >>because it still doesn't clear up what's going on. There's nothing leading >>up to this at all. And if the watcher was the doctor, then how was it done? >>What about the first law of time? I know this was an "unusal regeneration", >>but this is a bit much. > >Consider the following hypothesis: The Time Lords recognized that the >Doctor and the universe would be threatened and allowed a temporary duplication >of a future incarnation. (Why not: Three Doctors, Five Doctors) This >duplication is allowed to aide the Doctor, but only once allowed to meet him >before the regeneration. > >The next regeneration was even more unusual in that it is the first unnatural >regeneration not to be helped along by another Time Lord. > As to the Watcher, take a look at the regeneration of K'Anpo in "Planet of Spiders". It appears to me that Cho-Jee was K'Anpo's "Watcher". >>And then there is the injury. Regeneration is supposed to take place in >>massive cell damage. For example, from old age for Doctor #1, Forced by the >>time lords for #2, radiation poisoning for #3 and Spectrox poisoning for #5. >>But what's this for, a long fall??? ... > >Who is to say that his cells weren't damaged in the fall. (He was at least >pretty shaken up!) Any form of death could be considered cell damage. >Re: Deadly Assassin. I submit that that got it wrong, I haven't seen it for >years, though. Also, take a look at Romandvoratrelundar's (deep breath) regeneration. She CHOSE to regenerate! It seems to be the case that regeneration can be a voluntary thing (in which case it is sometimes called a rejuvination!) Apparently, a Time Lord can choose his/her new body if rejuvination takes place. The Second Doctor was given the option of rejuvination, and was shown several possible "new bodies". Since he was reluctant to choose one of them, he got "stuck" with Jon Pertwee's body! Also, I believe the Hartnell-Troughton transition was, in fact, a rejuvination. Complications occured because the First Doctor had waited so long to regenerate. (I'll check this against the tape my friend has--he says it's the best of the 5 so far!) Happy Times and Places, -The Parker Hobbit -- decvax!sunybcs!hobbit or seismo!rochester!rocksvax!sunybcs!hobbit "I cross the void beyond the mind...to seek a truth they never find"