Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 v7 ucbtopaz-1.8; site ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!ucbvax!ucbtopaz!mwm From: mwm@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: h,j,k,l in vi Message-ID: <726@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Date: Fri, 15-Feb-85 02:38:30 EST Article-I.D.: ucbtopaz.726 Posted: Fri Feb 15 02:38:30 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 18-Feb-85 04:19:09 EST References: <8242@brl-tgr.ARPA> Reply-To: mwm@ucbtopaz.UUCP (Praiser of Bob) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 22 Summary: [moved from net.unix-wizards, as it (among other things) didn't belong there.] In article <8242@brl-tgr.ARPA> cottrell@nbs-vms.ARPA writes: >If you have ever seen an adm-3a terminal you will know where h,j,k,l come >from. Those keys had arrows on the keys and ^h,^j,^k,^l moved the cursor >appropriately. Those keys also control the movement of worm(6). The adm-3 I used didn't *have* arrow keys :-). Yes, I know where those key choices came from. That's not a good reason to force them on other people. Sort of like IBM insisting that you have a 32xx to use some of their tools. >"Those who don not remember history are condemned to forget it." Great. Now if we can only get those who do remember history to forget it, so we can do things right. One of the things that bothers me most about BSD is the habit of taking a mediocre implementation of a good idea, and using it over and over again. To wit: nearly every thing that needs motion on a screen uses the "vi" command set (plug: see dbell@daisy's *very* slick life for an example), and far to many things (more than 0) have files that look like /etc/termcap.