Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!nishri From: nishri@utcs.UUCP (Alex Nishri) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: IBM to support UNIX on 4300 Message-ID: <438@utcs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Feb-85 22:00:11 EST Article-I.D.: utcs.438 Posted: Tue Feb 19 22:00:11 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 20-Feb-85 04:01:23 EST References: <801@sdcsla.UUCP> <424@lsuc.UUCP> Reply-To: nishri@utcs.UUCP (Alex Nishri) Organization: University of Toronto - General Purpose UNIX Lines: 58 In article <424@lsuc.UUCP> dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) writes: >Will this be as a virtual machine (I think that's what they >call them) under VM? (What I really mean is, will it be able >to run together with other operating systems at the same time?) >Also, any word on what the price might be - something cheaper >than Amdahl's UTS, I hope... - unlike Amdahl's UTS, IX/370 is full duplex and comes with uucp and vi. - IX/370 must run under VM/SP. VM/SP is a very simple program which allows multiple operating systems to run under one IBM 370 Architecture machine giving each the illusion of having their own machine. Operating Systems which know they are running under VM/SP, as presumably IX/370 does, can also issue hypervisor calls to VM/SP to obtain some "hardware" services which are more complex to issue on a real IBM 370. - Prices from the (American) announcement letter: Maximum Number of One Time Charge Concurrently signed on users 16 $10,000 32 $20,000 64 $40,000 65+ $75,000 Monthly Licensed Program Support Charge: $475.00 Monthly Multiple Licensed Program Support Charge: $792.00 - Of course you will also need a machine which can run IBM 370 architecture (with at least 4 Megabyte of storage.) And one Series/1 computer per virtual machine running IX/370. At least 200Mb of IBM type DASD and at least one IBM tape drive. - Source and online documentation are not supplied. One hardcopy of some documentation is shipped free with each license. - IBM had an Announcements Seminar today in Toronto (lasting 5 hours.) Many new strategic products were announced. The IX/370 annoucement was glossed over in a few seconds (and only one slide). A statement was made to the effect that IX/370 could be used to consolidate centrally your currently distributed UNIX. (A key theme from IBM in the last few years has been that distributed systems are a good approach for some applications, but that eventually distributed systems just but a greater demand for large centrally supported services. One joke, "If you have an office near a water fountain, your PC future is better.") - General Availability: October, 1985 Education (IX/370 planning & installation): Third Quarter 1985 What I heard may not be entirely the way it was said, so please verify things for yourself. Alex Nishri University of Toronto BITNET: alex at utoronto USENET: ... utcs!nishri