Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!nishri From: nishri@utcs.UUCP (Chris Lewis) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: IBM to support UNIX on 4300 Message-ID: <443@utcs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Feb-85 21:28:10 EST Article-I.D.: utcs.443 Posted: Thu Feb 21 21:28:10 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Feb-85 22:41:46 EST References: <801@sdcsla.UUCP> <424@lsuc.UUCP> <438@utcs.UUCP> Reply-To: clewis@mnetor.UUCP (Chris Lewis) Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 41 This is the second IBM UNIX for 370 series announced within the last year. The previous one titled VM/IX was a "special bid PRPQ" (I think that is the term). This means that the product is not generally announced. Your local IBM representative is supposed to determine which of his customers would benefit from it, and then petition the regional IBM Office for permission to let the customer ask for it. At a previous employer I was attempting to evaluate and possible acquire a copy of VM/IX. I found out quite quickly that VM/IX wasn't particularly useful. Due to political constraints, VM/IX has two major drawbacks which made it impossible for us to use it with our large 308x VM/SP3 system: 1) It has no support for 327x screens (IX/370 has this problem). You must have a Series/1 front end with ASCII serial terminals. 2) VM/IX will not run on VM/SP HPO (high performance option). Now, we weren't too terribly concerned with point 1 - the Series/1 is fairly inexpensive and we had quite a few serial terminals at the time. It was a substantial inconvenience though, because the building was only wired for 327x clusters. However, the second problem is quite severe. After all, when you have a BIG system with lots of users you really need HPO. Downgrading our system to non-HPO was obviously not an option. So, our only practical alternative was to get a 4300 for the VM/IX. That was too expensive. So, I gave up on it. In addition, I'm not sure that VM/IX was really intended for anything other than 43xx processors. It may not have been supported on anything larger - though I know that it IS running on bigger machines. The reason I bring this up is that people should make sure whether IX/370 supports HPO before dashing out and buying it for your big blue behemoth. Obviously VM/IX was primarily intended for situations where customers were looking for a big blue alternative to buying a VAX. VM/IX is not suitable for existing VM/SP systems. [ These are my own opinions - not necessarily any of my employer's. They don't know anything about this anyhow ] Chris Lewis Computer X (CANADA) Ltd. utzoo!utcs!mnetor!clewis