Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site wlcrjs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!wlcrjs!zubbie From: zubbie@wlcrjs.UUCP (Jeanette Zobjeck) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: women's place Message-ID: <617@wlcrjs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 28-Feb-85 16:10:30 EST Article-I.D.: wlcrjs.617 Posted: Thu Feb 28 16:10:30 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Mar-85 20:38:57 EST Distribution: net Organization: chi-net, Public Access UN*X, Chicago IL Lines: 52 Recently a women's talk show air on a Madison,Wisconsin TV station featured3 transexual women (male to female ). One of them was the first in the United States. Another one was a housewife and the third was pre-surgical. The interesting, or perhaps unsettling thing I noted was during the part of the show when questions from the audience were answered. One older woman who apparently, judging only by her accent, asked the questions: 1) Can you have children? A) No. 2) If you can not have children than what good are you as women? A) We feel equal, whole, a part of the world. The thought here which bothers me is How many of us out there in the world feel that our prime function in this world is to have babies. I feel I have a lot more to contribute then simply increasing the population. Since there are also many women who, for one reason or another, can not have children. Does that fact also make them useless, non-contributing hangers on in society or does the fact that they were born with a females body make them exempt from that concept. Is it only wrong to BECOME (physically) a woman who can not have children because your body once had the wrong parts on it. I am perhaps oversimplifying the sex change asspect because it is only important as background. The important, as I see it, issue is the attitude which says we, as women, have a requirement to maintain our place and to live as if reproduction was our only job in life. Since procreation takes both sexes why then shouldn't males also be burdened with guilt for not being primarily concerned with the making of babies and with a career or what ever second? Women will never be free of the fact that they carry the child inside them but this is not, again to me, the main reason we exist nor should it be. As a group in the working arena we must work very hard as individuals to keep attitudes like this (which we probably grew up with) from holding us back. jeanette l. zobjeck All opinions expressed in this article are wlcrjs! strictly my own !!!! ihnp4!< >zubbie ihlpa! =======================================================================