Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!info-vax From: info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA Newsgroups: fa.info-vax Subject: RE: Mail to non VMS machines Message-ID: <5495@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Thu, 14-Mar-85 15:25:01 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.5495 Posted: Thu Mar 14 15:25:01 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 15-Mar-85 04:26:40 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.ARPA Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 25 From: (Stephen Tihor) Sadly though there are not too many places you can buy well supported 4.2 SYSTEMS from yet. We have several here at NYU and other than Mt. Xinu and the hardware vendors no one was able to suggest a support alternative better than "Well go and hire a Unix Wizard". Now the hardware vendors are companies small and large but as long as you code is portable it can be moved. Sadly, for our scientific users, few of the large numerical codes and libraries are written in C. Few vendors are really good fortran compilers under 4.2. The few than do usually don't have IP/TCP working right. The last couple of systems are almost livable they'll get our business based on price/perfomance and maintanence considerations. Unlike some sites we don;t have that many problems with DEC FS. Sometimes you have to train a new CE on how to install a new kind of system or what to check. But whenever we get a real bozo we just recycle him and DEC send us someone else. So we have three times as many cycles of VAXen...and five times as many usable cycles. \\ Stephen Tihor / CIMS / NYU / 251 Mercer Street / New York, NY 10012 // (( DEC Enet: RHEA::DECWRL::"""TIHOR@NYU-CMCL1.ARPA""" NYUnet: TIHOR.CMCL1 )) // ARPAnet: Tihor@NYU-CMCL1 UUCPnet address: ...!ihnp4!cmcl2!cmcl1!tihor \\ -------