Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site hplsle.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tikal!hplsla!hplsle!kunz From: kunz@hplsle.UUCP (kunz) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Carver CD Player & Technology Message-ID: <5000002@hplsle.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Mar-85 19:14:00 EST Article-I.D.: hplsle.5000002 Posted: Tue Mar 19 19:14:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Mar-85 03:35:57 EST References: <14700008@hpfcms.UUCP> Lines: 25 Nf-ID: #R:hpfcms:14700008:hplsle:5000002:000:1167 Nf-From: hplsle!kunz Mar 19 17:14:00 1985 > Suppose your input signal is 17,18,17,18,17,18,... > Whether your extra samples inserted before the digital averaging are > 0's or repeats of the last sample makes no difference. You still can > get out a signal 17,17,17,17,18,18,18,18,17,17,17,17,... from this process, > UNLESS you drop the lower two bits, in which case it will look flat. It seems that we hit the topic of dithering... Now you've forced me to learn something new (again -- I knew it in school). Yes, I'll agree that dithering noise in a sampled system can be a real problem and probably can be eliminated by 16 bit DACs (for CDs) and then 'tossing' the LSB's. This is what you mean, isn't it? I wonder though, is that signal down at -90 dB a concern. I suppose for the purists it is! :-) This is a good discussion, I'd like to keep up the technical discussion of CDs and related audio stuff in this category. It keeps me up on things. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Kunz {ihnp4!hplabs!hp-pcd, uw-beaver!fluke}!hplsla!kunz Hewlett-Packard Lake Stevens Instrument Division 8600 Soper Hill Rd Everett, Washington 98205-1298 (206) 335-2135