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From: jeff@oblio.UUCP (Jeff Buchanan)
Newsgroups: net.auto
Subject: Re: big block Chevy vs Mopar 440 - no contest
Message-ID: <291@oblio.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 11-Mar-85 16:52:58 EST
Article-I.D.: oblio.291
Posted: Mon Mar 11 16:52:58 1985
Date-Received: Sat, 16-Mar-85 03:29:39 EST
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> .....You could buy an '84
> Corvette for say, $24,000, buy a ZL-1 aluminum motor for it for
> another $10,000 (including all mods to yield 800+ HP non turbo
> charged, blown, or injected), drop the motor in the Vette, and
> you would have a car that would blow away those "high price spread"
> cars.


>>There are stupid comments and then there are stupid comments.  Jeff, you
>>sound like one of those guys I race a Baylands Raceway each weekend.  You
>>think you can put mega horse power in a stock car and turn nines!  Drop
>>a ZL-1 into an '84 vette and if the transmission doesn't the blow up,
>>the frame (or lack of) will be twisted like a pretzel.

>>I much prefer big-block to any 4-banger, but please discuss it coherently.
>>I build and drive ten second cars and it takes alot more than horsepower
>>to do it.


					Shelby Thornton
					Relational Technology
				

Hey, calm down.  Who ever said anything about 9's?  Not me.  Transmission
blowing up?  Twisted frame?  You sure read a lot more into my letter than
what was there.  The comment I made about the ZL-1 Vette was only one
small part of a much broader topic.  I had no intention of elaborating
on how much effort is required to make such a swap.  What I said is true
in principal, and you should not have jumped to the conclusion that
I think no further modifications would be necessary to race such a car.
In fact, I said nothing about racing at all!  


>>When I say torque, I mean usable torque.  Rat motors don,t know
>>what that is.  I've watched my 440's destroy any and all 427s and
>>454s that they've run across.  I know I don't have the horsepower
>>of some of these motors, but my mid-range torque destroyed them.

Is that right?  Well I've got a 427 that will rearrange your doors
which I drive to work everyday.  Send me mail and we will arrange a time
and place to get it on.  We'll put the money in escrow, and if the price is
right I`ll drive up to Berkley from San Jose.  I don't think for a milli-
second you seriously think your slow-par can beat even a mediocre running
rat, so I'm sure you won't respond to this challenge.

As far as your weird ideas about torque and how it relates to racing,
just keep on thinking that horsepower is meaningless.  Torque is
meaningful ONLY if the RPM is specified.  Guess what torque at a 
particular RPM is.... That's right - horsepower! (try taking a physics
course, Shelby.  You would be amazed at how wonderful it is when you
understand what you are talking about.)

                               Jeff