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From: jeff@oblio.UUCP (Jeff Buchanan)
Newsgroups: net.auto
Subject: Re: skidpad numbers: Vette vs Porsche
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Date: Wed, 13-Mar-85 21:13:46 EST
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Posted: Wed Mar 13 21:13:46 1985
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> $100,000 Lambrogini was inferior in the handling department (.86 g's
> vs .89 g's on the skidpad, the best measure of road holding ability,
> re: Road & Track magazine).

Jeff, sometimes I wonder if you're for real.  If you put the 84 vette
on a race track, that .89 means something.  If you put that vette on
a normal street, with the associated terrain differences (pot holes, uneven
pavement), that number becomes VERY misleading.  

If you put the vette on the street (where it belongs), the Porche will out
handle it on 9 out of 10 roads.  The bump steer on the vette is horrible,
whereas the Porche's is excellent.  What that means is that if the vette hits
a bump in a turn, the vette suspension panics.  The 84 vette is a very good
car, but don't be selective and incomplete about your facts.

						Shelby Thornton
						Relational Technology


Shelby, if I said the sky was blue, you would automatically call me a liar.
Have you ever driven ANY of the cars you pretend to be an expert on?
Are you aware that when the '84 Corvette was released in March '84 every
major car magazine compared it to various types of Porsches and proclaimed
the Vette to be superior in handling?  The problem you have is that I 
give a hard analytical fact such as a skidpad number, and since the fact is
to specific to refute, you can only say something vague, unspecific, and 
meaningless, like "on 9 out of 10 roads the Porcshe will out handle the 
Vette."  Which Porsche?  Which 9 out of 10 roads?  Your assertion is so
general (i.e. you've really said nothing) that you can't be proved right
or wrong!  Your comment about bump steer isn't vague, but who knows if it
is correct.   If you are saying that on the street, the Corvette handles 
better when you are not going over bumps and potholes and the Porsche
handles better when you are, fine.  That means that 99% of the time
the Corvette handles better.  
                                     Jeff