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From: clewis@mnetor.UUCP (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: net.mail,net.wanted
Subject: Sendmail problems - HELP!
Message-ID: <325@mnetor.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 22-Mar-85 11:17:28 EST
Article-I.D.: mnetor.325
Posted: Fri Mar 22 11:17:28 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 22-Mar-85 13:18:46 EST
Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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We are having some problems with our mail system, and I was wondering
if anybody could help.  I am trying to read the sendmail documentation
(we're running BSD4.2 on a Pyramid) and it refers to RFC819.  Does anybody
have a mailable version of this?  If so, could they send e-mail to me
about having it and I will ask the closest person to send the actual
document.

The basic problem is this: We (mnetor) are basically a UUCP only site.
We talk to utcs via UUCP and utcsri talks to them (I'm not sure how,
probably an ethernet).  If I send a piece of mail:
	Mail utcs!utcsri!someoneA utcs!utcsri!someoneB utcs!someoneC someoneD
and someoneA replies to the message, the return addresses get ARPAized
(utcsri is also on ARPA) into this:
	From utcs!someoneA@utcsri Thu Mar 21 13:48:47 1985
	Received: by mnetor.UUCP (4.12/4.7)
		id AA20487; Thu, 21 Mar 85 13:48:46 est
	Date: Thu, 21 Mar 85 13:48:46 est
	Received: from utcsri.UUCP (utcsri.ARPA) by utcs.UUCP (4.24/4.7) id AA12794; Thu, 21 Mar 85 13:21:59 est
	Return-Path: <someoneA@utcsri>
	Received: by utcsri.UUCP (4.24/4.7)
		id AA20019; Thu, 21 Mar 85 13:20:28 est
	From: utcs!someoneA@utcsri (SomeoneA's name)
	To: someoneC@utcs, mnetor!clewis@utcs
	Subject: Re:  A Problem
	Cc: mnetor!someoneD@utcs, utcsri!someoneB@utcs
	Status: RO

If I try to reply to this, all of the addresses fail (utcsri!someoneB@utcs
via an "unknown host", "someoneC@utcs" via "unknown user" (I can figger
out how to fix the latter one, but am not convinced that I should).  Note that
the "From" and the utcsri!someoneB@utcs are inconsistent.  Anyhow, I'm
not even sure which sendmail is causing the problem (there are three
involved).  However, shouldn't utcsri use UUCP conventions while going
down an entirely UUCP path?  Eg: all of the paths will be with '!'?
I have been speaking to some of the mail admins on these machines and
they seem to think that it is working as intended.  Also, that the
"cc:" budger-up is a known-unfixable clash between "!" and "@".
utcsri seems to be the only site where this shows up.

I am mostly a novice at sendmail and was hoping someone can send me
something clearer than the Sendmail documents about what our sendmail 
should be doing.  I am also pursuing this off-net.

Thanks,
-- 
Chris Lewis, Motorola New Enterprises
UUCP: {allegra, linus, ihnp4}!utzoo!utcs!mnetor!clewis
BELL: (416)-475-1300 ext. 321