Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watrose.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watrose!cdshaw From: cdshaw@watrose.UUCP (Chris Shaw) Newsgroups: net.micro.68k Subject: Re: 68000 Cross Development Tools Message-ID: <7362@watrose.UUCP> Date: Wed, 20-Mar-85 04:03:07 EST Article-I.D.: watrose.7362 Posted: Wed Mar 20 04:03:07 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 20-Mar-85 06:40:57 EST References: <602@mako.UUCP> <118@spar.UUCP> Reply-To: cdshaw@watrose.UUCP (Chris Shaw) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 27 Summary: Microtec stuff slow, but very useful Concerning the Microtec stuff, I found that although the package was indeed slow (Vax 750 under VMS), it was extremely useful in my application. In fact, we had a CAD system running off the same VAX, and when circuit layout was happening, simulation which normally happened at a human- readable speed slowed to 1-line-per-minute action. I usually scheduled lunch for those times. My task was to get a pascal p-code interpreter running on an 1802 system that hadn't been built yet. We did have Microtec's 1802 assembler & simulator programs, however, and I was able to get the program written while the hardware was being developed and built. The real beauty of the whole scene was that when it came time to blow an EPROM with my 2k of never-seen-a-real-machine 1802 code, IT WORKED FIRST TIME !! At the time, this didn't amaze me, since I had simulated the code to an incredible degree. However, if you ever find yourself in the position of having to write a large piece of software for a small/prototype machine, get and use a simulator, it saves an *incredible* amount of re-blowing EPROMS and suchlike. (no, I don't work for Microtec) Chris Shaw