Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!tgr!WMartin@SIMTEL20.ARPA From: WMartin@SIMTEL20.ARPA (William G. Martin) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: The demise of Ziff-Davis Message-ID: <9416@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Thu, 21-Mar-85 17:03:44 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.9416 Posted: Thu Mar 21 17:03:44 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Mar-85 03:26:13 EST Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Lines: 67 Hi! This is not a flame at you; however, since you have posted that you do have a channel to the inner workings of what was once Ziff-Davis, I'd appreciate it if you could pass this on to them, in addition to whatever else of the online discussion regarding the magazine business you felt they might find to be of interest. What I (and I believe at least some others, judging by the contents of postings) find to be Ziff-Davis's most unforgiveable behavior was what they did to the magazine that ended up as "Computers and Electronics". This may not have been truly the fault of the corporate heirarchy; it could have been incredibly poor decisions by the people in charge of that particular magazine. However, if that was the case, the corporate offices are still at fault for allowing their underlings to do the damage. They took a viable and worthwhile magazine, one which had a long and honorable history of providing service to both readers and advertisers, in the general electronics arena, and forced it to become just another "computer magazine". They did this at a time when "computer magazines" were destined to fail, due to the inevitable reduction in the artificially-supported home-computer marketplace. By thus destroying their own magazine, they did not do damage to themselves alone, but to the entire community of electronic hobbyists and the businesses which supply them and depend upon them. The old "Popular Electronics" magazine had a useful and worthwhile mix of professional and amateur level projects and information. It proved its worth and value by absorbing the old "Electronics World" magazine some years ago, becoming stronger and of more use to the readership in that process. It started the home computer boom, yet did not become overwhelmed by computers, keeping a viable assortment of electronics-related topics alive in features and columns. Only when the decision was made to give up this mix, change the name to "Computers and Electronics", and insult the readership by eliminating the features they valued, did it suffer a blow from which it could not recover, and thus slid into a state where even loyal former readers had no interest in it. This is why we find the behavior of Ziff-Davis unforgiveable. It really is of little consequence that this or that microcomputer magazine sprang up, flickered, and died. As fashions in the machines change, so will the viability of publications tied to them. But what Z-D did was to take one of the few GENERAL electronics magazines, of interest to non-computer-fanatics and computer hobbyists alike, turn it into a worthless computer magazine when there was no need or market for yet another one, and then watch it die. There are not enough general electronic magazines left. "Radio-Electronics" is about the only major one; new publications, like "Modern Electronics", are trying to fill the vacuum left by the demise of "Popular Electronics", but are not likely to do so. There is a synergistic effect between the readership and the magazines in such a field; if the magazines are there, they stimulate interests in the readers' minds. If the readers are eager, they stimulate the growth of the magazines. When a company unilaterally cuts off a major magazine in the field, it can actually hurt the field itself -- because of "Popular Electronics"' demise, there are fewer electronic hobbyists in America today and in future years. Those that might have read a copy and become stimulated to enter the hobby will find some other outlet for their energies. Given this situation, as we perceive it, is there any wonder that we regard Ziff-Davis with hostility? They didn't just terminate a publication -- they actively acted to damage an area of one of our strongest enthusiasms! William Martin -------