Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unm-cvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!unmvax!unm-cvax!cs2532aa From: cs2532aa@unm-cvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.games,net.micro.apple Subject: Software Piracy (loooong) Message-ID: <296@unm-cvax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 17-Mar-85 03:33:25 EST Article-I.D.: unm-cvax.296 Posted: Sun Mar 17 03:33:25 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 18-Mar-85 08:22:08 EST Reply-To: cs2532aa@unm-cvax.UUCP (Foobar Baz Bletchquux) Organization: Perry's Pizza, Ridgemont Mall Lines: 228 Xref: watmath net.games:1727 net.micro.apple:1762 Dear net.games and net.micro.apple readers: What follows is a copy of a letter that I sent yesterday to Roe Adams, late of Softalk, and now National Editor of Electronic Games magazine. It is in response to an article in the March issue of that magazine. I have posted it here because I think that it is of general interest to the net, and even to people in Great Britain. (How about that?) I also posted it here because I'd like to see a discussion of this topic started here, and I figured that this would be a great way to start one. Please, if you have flames about this article, MAIL them to me. Feel free to post useful discussion to net.micro.apple. I do not believe that net.micro is interested. Please note that I may quote your personal mail to me in followup postings, but I will not use your name unless you state that I am allowed to do so in your letter. And now that that's over, heeeere we go . . . ---------- . . . As per the request at the end of the article in the March 1985 issue called "Menace of the Software Pirates," I am sending you this letter to let you know how I feel about piracy. I never expected the article to come out in favor of piracy, but I expected it to be accurate, straightforward, and relevant. Unfortunately, it was none of these things. I have a number of general and specific complaints about the article, and I will outline them here, presented with excerpts from the original article for clarity's sake. > The advent of disk duplicators has created a new category of computer thief, > the software mugger. I have never, repeat, NEVER heard this term 'software mugger' used before. Is it the habit of your magazine to invent silly new buzzwords to make something old and commonplace sound new and interesting? The pirates I know who do nothing but copy things using Essential Data Duplicator or Copy ][ Plus are still called the same thing: pirates. 'Software mugger', indeed! I am proud to say that I have NEVER mugged a piece of software, or even a human being. > Ironically, in their lust to obtain the newest software, the vast horde of > muggers frequently scare software publishers out of the business. "Frequently"? I have yet to hear of ONE COMPANY that went out of business and blamed software piracy. Perhaps I missed something . . . but even assuming that I did, "frequently" brings forth visions of several software publishers folding monthly, screaming "the pirates did it to us!" to the bitter end. Has this ever happened? I don't think so. > The British software industry presents a frightening example. Think for > a moment about all those fantastic British software programs you've enjoyed > over the years. What, you say you can't think of any? That's because > piracy has flourished unchecked in the U.K., and no company wants to spend > time and money creating an innovative program knowing full well that the > better it turns out, the greater the likelihood that the vultures will > rip it off. Granted, piracy in Great Britain is as big as or bigger than it is over here. But the conclusion that the lack of British software available over here is because of piracy is the biggest pile of rubbish I have seen in a great while. The main "problems" are these: o The British use a totally different group of machines from we Americans. The popular machines over there are the TI 99/4A, the BBC micro, the Oric-1, the Dragon, the Sharp MZ-80A, the ZX-81 (known as the Timex/Sinclair 1000 over here), and the Spectrum (the short-lived Timex/Sinclair 2061). There is some crossover . . . a few C-64's and Ataris, and maybe you can find an Apple if you're lucky, but for the most part, micros that are popular in Britain are either defunct over here or were never even available in the first place. Therefore, there's not much of a market over here for already developed British software. But what about the 64 and the Atari, you ask? Well, that brings up the other problem . . . o The British DON'T BUY DISK DRIVES. They consider them a waste of money, and from what I've seen there, they are quite satisfied with their cassette tape drives. (That may give them a speed advantage over the disk-drive equipped American user of the C-64 :-) Games that take advantage of the disk drive (which Americans use almost exclusively nowadays) are never even developed, so how could they be sold over here? And it's virtually impossible to sell tape- based games on this side of the Atlantic in quantities that would warrant importing from England. The lack of British software available over here is a nonissue. > When it doesn't kill off titles altogether, mass piracy at the very least > tacks dollars onto the price of software as the producers pay off the high > cost of increasingly sophisticated copy protection. They are wasting their money. I know almost as many people who refuse to buy copy-protected software as I know software pirates. Jerry Pournelle, in his BYTE column "Chaos Manor", has gone over this many times, and in a manner much more convincing than anything I could say here. > Penguin Software . . . has attempted to deal with mugging and piracy in a > different manner. Penguin, in an altruistic bit of company policy, doesn't > even bother protecting their applications software, including instead an > extraordinarily fair replacement policy. I would hardly consider this policy "altruistic". This should be standard policy for EVERY company. And why, pray tell, are they so generous with their applications software, while they insist on protecting their entertain- ment software to the hilt? I have seen just as many pirated copies of "The Complete Graphics System" as I have seen of "Transylvania". In my opinion, people who invest in entertainment software have the same right to back-up their disks as people who invest in applications. > As a final incentive to stop illegal disk duplication, Penguin has done as > much as anyone to keep the lid on their software prices. $35 for a graphic adventure is "keeping a lid on their software prices? Give me a break! > Of course, the muggers' use of high prices as a rationale for illegal > copying is, at best, a red herring. As a rationale, perhaps I can agree. The only rationale I have ever found necessary for piracy is the fact that you get free software. That's a pretty good rationale. But the threat of piracy still doesn't justify the outrageous pricing policies going on today on ALL kinds of software, be it entertainment or applications. If Borland International can sell "Turbo Pascal", which is generally recognized as one of the best Pascal compilers on the market, for $70, what does that make the company that charges almost as much for a simple adventure game? Many words come to mind, none of them suitable for a family magazine. > Moreover, the mugger is more responsible than the company for the high price > of software. Not only by stealing programs, but by sharing with friends, the > retail marketplace is diminished. The fewer paying customers there are, the > higher prices remain. That most pirates would have bought the software they pirate in the first place is a fallacious assumption. Where would pirates with thousands upon thousands of (retail) dollars worth of software have gotten the money for it? People who would ordinarily buy software still buy it, those who wouldn't buy software anyway, pirate it. As I pointed out before, I haven't heard of any software companies going out of business and blaming the pirates. (And I am of the opinion that piracy has probably kept several floppy disk manufacturers in the black!) > . . . one particular group stands out as being culpable [for high software > prices]: the producers of disk-duplication software. > In homes all over America, otherwise-honest adults and adolescents are > stealing the products of other people's creative labor. They are doing this > not for kicks or as a statement of dissatisfaction with the state of software > prices, they are doing it because it's so incredibly easy! Software pirates rarely use programs like Copy ][ Plus or Locksmith 5.0 anymore -- the programs simply aren't necessary. Thanks to current modem technology and that small handful of pirates who can remove the copy protection from virtually any program in a matter of hours, practically any ware you like is available over the phone lines from any one of literally hundreds of software-oriented computer bulletin boards across the country. Once the copy-protection is removed, all you need to copy the disk is the program COPYA, which comes with every Apple sold. As an example, Activision's "Ghostbusters" and Penguin's "Sword of Kadash" are considered "old wares" by most pirates, even though the games aren't even available yet (for the Apple) in most parts of the country. Most pirates have copies of games before ads for the games even appear, without ever having to boot a single "dupe disk". And what about legitimate owners of protected software? Few companies sell programs with backup copies. Fewer still replace a damaged disk for $5 or less. Remember, current copyright law allows the legitimate owner to make a backup copy of the original disk. > EG'S 4 POINTS . . . how the industry should address the question of piracy > and mugging. The following are our suggestions: > > 1) The computer industry must use all its influence and power in an effort > to have all copy-duplication software banned. No one has a legitimate > use for a dupe disk, any more than they do for a machine capable of > duplicating currency. As long as there are dupe disks, it will be so > easy to steal software that great numbers of people will be unable to > resist. So, making backups isn't a legitimate use for a dupe disk? Tell that to the manager whose "Accounts Recievable" program disk has just been wiped out by a stray cup of coffee. Hey, as long as there are cassette decks, it'll be so easy for folks to tape albums for their friends that great numbers of people will be unable to resist . . . better ban them, too . . . and as long as there are cars able to go faster than 55 miles per hours, lots of folks will be tempted to break the speed limit . . . This suggestion reeks of Big-Brotherism, and I am totally appalled that you would suggest the banning of ANY kind of software. > 2) Newspapers, magazines, or any other medium carrying ads for dupe disks, > pirated software, or other piratical devices must be boycotted. This > also applies to bulletin boards and even user groups through which > pirated software is produced. In the first place, you've described just about every computer-oriented magazine on the racks, secondly, virtually nobody is going to boycott a magazine just because it has ads for Back-It-Up III, and thirdly, just who do you think are MEMBERS of user groups that distribute pirated software? Innocent little old ladies from Pasadena? > 3) The software industry must set standards in the matter of warranties. > Guidelines must be agreed upon so that defective software can be > returned in a manner equitable to both the manufacturer and consumer. Agreed! The days of "The manufacturer of this product doesn't warranty it to do jack-poo, and accepts no liability in any way, shape, or form for any damages that result from any use of this product no matter what happens" have got to end. (This has nothing to do with piracy, though, so what's it doing here?) > 4) Finally the computer industry must get it together . . . Piracy is > a question so crucial to the entire eco-structure of te computer > universe that it can not be settled by having each company seek out > a separate peace. Just what the heck does this paragraph mean? Are you suggesting that software companies sign treaties with pirates to prevent the pirates from copying their software? Please clarify . . . I honestly don't have any idea what you're talking about. At any rate, this concludes my list of complaints about the article and opinions on the subject in general. I hope that this letter will be of some help to you. ---------- .rne. ----- Real World . . Ernie Longmire / 311 Don St. SE / Los Lunas, NM 87031-9405 UUCP . . . . . {{purdue,cmcl2,ihnp4}!lanl,ucbvax}!unmvax!unm-cvax!cs2532aa ----- "Actually, God's a very nice person . . . his first name is Bill and he lives somewhere in Canoga Park . . ." - Johnny Vomit