Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cbosgd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!rlp From: rlp@cbosgd.UUCP (Bob Platt) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.physics,net.sci Subject: Re: Perpetual Motion & oil companies Message-ID: <975@cbosgd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Mar-85 21:06:02 EST Article-I.D.: cbosgd.975 Posted: Tue Mar 19 21:06:02 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 20-Mar-85 05:58:20 EST References: <261@eneevax.UUCP> <634@houxa.UUCP> <2059@sun.uucp>, <9288@brl-tgr.ARPA> <867@ecsvax.UUCP> <274@ihlpg.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Columbus Lines: 21 Xref: watmath net.misc:7577 net.physics:2261 net.sci:297 It really is possible to produce a 'pill' that can be mixed with water to make 'fuel'. It this case the fuel is alcohol, and the 'pill' is called a Grignard reagent. The catch (there had to be one) is that the Grignard reagent is prepared USING alcohol. R-OH + Na -> RO-Na + 1/2 H2 RO-Na + H2O -> NaOH + R-OH For further details see "Organic Chemistry" 3rd Ed. C 1973 Morrison & Boyd pg 526-527. -- +----+ R. L. Platt /| /| AT&T Bell Laboratories +-|--+ | Columbus, Ohio | +--|-+ |/ |/ cbosgd!nscs!rlp +----+ (614) 860-4850 "Wherever you go, there you are"