Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watarts.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watarts!mupmalis From: mupmalis@watarts.UUCP (mike upmalis) Newsgroups: net.movies Subject: Re: TESTAMENT Message-ID: <8335@watarts.UUCP> Date: Sat, 16-Mar-85 12:36:23 EST Article-I.D.: watarts.8335 Posted: Sat Mar 16 12:36:23 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 17-Mar-85 01:12:29 EST References: <524@ahutb.UUCP>, <1090@watdcsu.UUCP> <548@ahutb.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 36 > REFERENCES: <524@ahutb.UUCP>, <1090@watdcsu.UUCP> > > Discussing flaws in TESTAMENT: > > >>On the contrary, some survivors were > >>headed up to Canada where the cold alone would have been deadly. > > > > Canada isn't that cold, and would be only three or four degrees > >colder than San Francisco (Celsius). Canada also would, in the more > >remote areas, be less ravaged by radiation, and could serve, through > >use of hothouses (yes, you can have hothouses in freezing > >temperatures; my father has done that for years), as a storehouse for > >the remnants of civilisation. > > I would refer you to THE COLD AND THE DARK by Ehrlich, Sagan et. al. > The charts on page 98 show in one plausible model temperatures dropping > 25 degrees or so in the San Francisco area and 30 to 40 degrees in > Canada within 40 days after a nuclear strike. The point is that Canada > is the wrong direction to go to avoid the effects of nuclear winter. > The point is that Canada is the wrong direction to go. > Two points, if there is a world wide cloud cover, then the plat level of the food chain would be gone, you may as well be in tahiti till you starve to death. However, living in -30c +- 20c temperature is being done now in the artic, Norway, Sweden and Siberia. As long as there is a food source, then there is hope. Living in a mine would free one from reliance on heating required, and if there was some power source available, hydroponics would do the trick. I do like my chances in Canada I must admit...... -- ~~ Mike Upmalis (mupmalis@watarts)