Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site amdahl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!decwrl!sun!amdahl!gam From: gam@amdahl.UUCP (G A Moffett) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: phrase etymology: "swell" Message-ID: <1294@amdahl.UUCP> Date: Sun, 17-Mar-85 05:16:15 EST Article-I.D.: amdahl.1294 Posted: Sun Mar 17 05:16:15 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 18-Mar-85 08:12:51 EST References: <417@umd5.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Blue Mouse Trailer Resort (sp #9), Hellmouth, CA Lines: 27 "Swell" has been a very flexible word over the last hundred years: - A stylishly dressed person, usually male;...a genteel or refined person (what is that song, "We're a couple of swells..."?). [1955, becomming archaic] - The present meaning of the word (excellent, grand, enjoyable, etc) has been colloquial since about 1880, with the current popularity starting about 1920. (It seems to have progressed from a grand superlative -- "What a swell place you have!" -- to a good-natured compliment -- "you're a swell guy" -- over time). - First used in print as an adverb, 1949. "I was treated swell." Unfortunately, the "Dictionary of American Slang" (Stewart Berg Flexner) has nothing to say about "make love", though I heard it in a radio program of the mid-late 40's, with the older meaning intended (they had an FCC in those days, too). It might be hard to tell at what point the meaning shifted to a more explicitly sexual one, since it had at some point been used with deliberate ambiguity. Today that ambiguity is lost, of course. -- Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam