Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utai.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!utai!gh From: gh@utai.UUCP (Graeme Hirst) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Rationalizing English Message-ID: <400@utai.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Mar-85 12:40:14 EST Article-I.D.: utai.400 Posted: Tue Mar 26 12:40:14 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 26-Mar-85 13:38:00 EST References: <376@tekchips.UUCP> Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 32 > Can anyone tell me about work that has been done to rationalize > English? The first area that I am particularly interested in is a phonetic > alphabet based on the present 26 letter alphabet. > John Ollis You seem to mean English spelling rather than English as a whole (and certainly English syntax is already very "rational" compared to most other Western languages). While English spelling could undoubtedly be "improved", a fully phonetic spelling is impossible. The great advantage of English spelling as it presently is is that it is the same all over the "English-speaking" world. If Americans (from the northern and southern states), the English, the Australians, and all the others all started spelling phonetically according to their local pronunciations, the result would be a big mess. If you a fairly standard North American English, you probably pronounce the words `don' and `dawn' essentially the same. If you spell them the same, you will confuse the Australian to whom the vowels are completely distinct. If the Australian spells `draw' and `drawer' the same (since to him/her they are homophones), how will you react? What about the Bostonian `park' and `pack'? The point is that since there is no standard English pronunciation, there can be no standard phonetic spelling. Any compromise would simply result in a different set of irrationalities. Graeme Hirst -- \\\\ Graeme Hirst University of Toronto Computer Science Department //// utcsri!utai!gh / gh.toronto@csnet-relay / 416-978-8747