Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sbcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!philabs!sbcs!debray From: debray@sbcs.UUCP (Saumya Debray) Newsgroups: net.nlang.india Subject: Re: Political maturity of the masses Message-ID: <178@sbcs.UUCP> Date: Sat, 16-Mar-85 12:37:43 EST Article-I.D.: sbcs.178 Posted: Sat Mar 16 12:37:43 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 20-Mar-85 04:45:06 EST References: <2458@hplabsc.UUCP> <173@sbcs.UUCP> <413@crystal.UUCP> <174@sbcs.UUCP> <420@crystal.UUCP> Organization: Computer Science Dept, SUNY@Stony Brook Lines: 69 Judging from some of the responses I've seen to my original article, it seems that I hadn't expressed myself as clearly as I ought to have. Rather than go into a line-by-line refutation of a line-by-line refutation of my article, therefore, I'll simply try to define what I mean by the phrase "political maturity", and see how this applies to India; I'll then briefly touch upon (i) the relevance of this to Indian democracy, and (ii) the relevance of the political maturity of the American voter to that of the Indian voter. Assume that in an election, the voter's choice is based on his perception of the effect, on his well-being, of the electoral victory of the various candidates. Then, I take the phrase "political maturity" to be indicative of the extent to which this perception tallies with reality. It's a fact that in Indian politics, factors like religion, caste and language play a very important role (what are the chances, do you think, of a Bengali MP being elected from Assam?). One of the responses to my article tried to defend this by saying that because of the oppression of the lower castes by the higher, a Harijan might be justified in voting on the basis of the candidates' caste. My contention is that whatever the historical facts might be, broad generalizations such as "SCs will look after my interests", or "Brahmins will oppress me", are inapplicable to individuals. I know -- and I'm sure you do, too -- of enough exceptions, either way, to make such generalizations meaningless in specific situations. Therefore, when a person votes for a candidate because the candidate belongs to a particular caste, speaks a particular language, practises a particular religion, or prefers spaghetti to lasagna, rather than his attitudes, stands on specific issues of concern to the electorate and capacity to better their quality of life, he makes a choice based on perceptions that may not accurately reflect reality. For this reason, I feel that the Indian voter is politically immature. I've been complaining about how film stars have been getting elected, and how that might be indicative of political immaturity. Here again, I feel, votes are given on the basis of the actor's screen personality, which, however wonderful, may not be reflective of reality. I feel, rather, that politicians should have to work their way up, demonstrating competence and the ability to deliver at lower levels (district, state) before being sent up to the national arena. A couple of postings have pointed out that India is a democracy. Since I haven't seen anyone disagree with this, mentioning it again and again seems redundant. Note that "democracy" simply refers to the ability of the people to choose who should govern them; it makes no mention of whether the people so chosen are well suited to the task, which is what "political maturity" refers to. Ravi says that by criticizing the maturity of our voters, "we laugh at ourselves, and call the voting population idiots!". I respectfully submit that this criticism is in no way meant to demean or ridicule; rather, it is meant as an attempt to pinpoint weaknesses that we can then try to set about rectifying. Finally, let me touch upon the relevance of the political maturity of the American voter to that of his Indian counterpart (Kulbir has already done a good job here, so I'll keep it brief). If we accept my definition of political maturity above, then it seems obvious that whether or not the American voter has an accurate perception of political reality is not related in any way to whether or not the Indian voter has such a perception. For this reason, I'm going to dismiss responses of the form, "Gee, look at these silly Americans, they've elected this deaf old retired actor as their president", as irrelevant. Such responses can, at best, conclude that "the Indian voter is as mature as the American voter" -- but since the question of relative maturity doesn't concern me, I see no reason to address it here. -- Saumya Debray SUNY at Stony Brook uucp: {allegra, hocsd, philabs, ogcvax} !sbcs!debray CSNet: debray@sbcs