Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: freedom and reason (attn russ, rich, & laura) Message-ID: <5343@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Mar-85 04:41:29 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.5343 Posted: Tue Mar 26 04:41:29 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 26-Mar-85 04:41:29 EST References: <362@aesat.UUCP> <5272@utzoo.UUCP>, <137@ubvax.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 39 I think that Tony Wuersch is talking about *freedom*, not *free will*. If you point a gun to my head you have considerably diminished my freedom, but I don't think that you have diminished my free will. I would grant that certain individuals -- say catatonics, or the severely retarded, or people in comas may not have free will, but then, they aren't the people that are asking the question. People have sent me a lot of mail about this. There seems to be a universal misunderstanding of what I said. Most people who have sent me mail have sent me mail which interprets my argument as follows: people ask ``do I have free will''? in asking such a question, one presumes that the answer is yes. therefore, by force of will, the answer is yes. this argument stinks. Well, yes, I agree that this is a lousy argument, but this is not the one I was making. I will try to be clearer. When I ask ``d o I have free will''? I am implicitly asserting that there is something worthwhile about asking questions. After all, I am bothering to do this rather than doing something else. The reason that it is good to ask questions is that it is a way of acquiring true knowledge. But why should true knowledge be of any use to me? Because, the more true knowledge I have, the fewer mistakes I should make. Aha. if knowledge is important because it enables us to make fewer mistakes, it follows then that we *can* make mistakes. In particular, we are free to make choices, some of which we would consider mistakes. If I do not have free will then I cannot ``make a mistake'' -- every thing that I do is outside of the realm of personal choice and therefore is inevitable. It may be inevitable that certain people speculate on whether or not they have free will, of course, but the hard part is explaining the great bulk of evidence that seems to indicate that it is a good thing to learn since we can avoid making mistakes that way. Laura Creighton utzoo!laura