Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Meta-government Message-ID: <365@psivax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 13-Mar-85 13:19:26 EST Article-I.D.: psivax.365 Posted: Wed Mar 13 13:19:26 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 16-Mar-85 01:06:08 EST References: <656@unmvax.UUCP> <264@cmu-cs-k.ARPA> <690@unmvax.UUCP> <347@psivax.UUCP> <715@unmvax.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 32 Summary: In article <715@unmvax.UUCP> cliff@unmvax.UUCP writes: > >You seem to forget, or ignore, that the emmigration is allowed only if >the receiving sub-meta-country accepts the criminal. If a country wants >to accept a mass-murder, that is up to the country to decide...personally >I don't see why any country would do such a thing. However, if a country >wants to accept all the criminals who were caught in violation of an anti- >drug law, then the accepting country has much to profit by this move. > >Essentially, the emmigration law would provide for an international law, where >truely serious crimes would be internationally illegal, yet the law wouldn't >be dictated by the richest countries. > You missed my point, what do you do with those people who are *not* accepted for immigration, and who *refuse*, or are unable to pay for their upkeep? There will be many of these, and there are only three alternatives: 1) let them go free, 2) lock them up (either in an asylum or in jail), or 3) kill them. The first is undesirable since it releases people *no other* country will take back into your own society. The second costs money, where are you going to get it? and it may be percieved as an attempt at coercion, tho I see it mainly as a way of excluding violent people from society. The third most definately constitutes coercion. Thus some form of coercion seems *inevitable*, and may in fact be *far* better than the alternatives. Or can you see another alternative for the incorrigable. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen