Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Who deserves what? Message-ID: <5284@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Mar-85 14:37:06 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.5284 Posted: Mon Mar 18 14:37:06 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 18-Mar-85 14:37:06 EST References: <356@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <5183@utzoo.UUCP>, <754@bunker.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 28 My definition of ``deserve'' is not founded on equality. It makes sense to look at poor people and ask ``did they deserve this?''. Generally, the answer is ``No.''. However, when you want to find out what injustice has occurred, it is better to find certain people who have made terrible choices than to say that in some magic way it is all ``the rich'''s fault. Since I am a firm non-beliver in ``the White Man's burden'' that I am wealthier than the third world inhabitants does not automatically make me think that in some way I do not deserve what I have. If you go back to a pre-industrial society, everybody in the world can be seen as being relatively equally wealthy (except for feudal barons, kings and the like). Everybody has a >75% infant mortality rate and starvation is common everywhere. Now we are all equal -- this seems to be the natural state of mankind. If you say ``nobody deserves to live that way'' then you have a complaint against God, perhaps, but hardly the current rich. It is also interesting that if you decided to kill 1/3rd of the population of the globe, killing the poorest (no, people, I do not advocate this, never have, and never will) you will see that we still have more people than existed in the middle ages, and the standard of living is much higher. This implies that people fill nitches where they can starve and live in misery and poverty whenever they can. Poverty may be an unending struggle unless you can sterilize, or otherwise convince the poor to stop breeding more poor people while you are trying to help them to raise their standard of living. They may breed faster than you can industrialise. Laura Creighton utzoo!laura