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>I have talked to various christian leaders who think that the 
>world shoudl become a series of christian states and that non-christians
>should be institutionalised. They are there -- try any campus christian
>group (except, say, theology centres) and you will find some -- I've
>found them on 12 campuses already and hear about them from others.
>Laura Creighton

     Laura, would you mind naming a few of these campuses and the names of
the groups that are preaching this?  I know about a group out in Idaho
(the Aryan Nations) that are a little far out, but I'd be curious to find
out what these other groups have to say.

     They tell me that Falwell's preaching is so pro-Israel and pro-Jewish
that he trips over himself.  How can you say that such a fine Christian as
Jerry (who runs many campus Christian groups) is anti-non-Christian?

>Path: decwrl!decvax!mit-athena!martillo
>Subject: Re: Christians converting Christians
>Posted: Fri Mar  1 05:52:51 1985

>Judaism  does  not  proselytize  specifically  because  it  accepts  the
>existence of many cultures and religions.  Everyone not just Jews has  a
>portion in the world to come.  Obviously, if some pagan is praying to an
>idol, he is not praying to God, but if that prayer  is  well-intentioned
>and sincere God may chose to listen.  Judaism merely expects of non-Jews
>that they act decently.  How is this intolerant?


     That ain't exactly what I've heard.  For example, I heard that in the 
State of Israel (the epitome of Judaism) it is not possible for a non-Jew
to obtain citizenship.  I also heard it is against the law to give a Jew
a copy of the New Testament.  I heard that it is also an offense to tell
a Jew under 18 years of age anything about Christianity.  I heard that in
the State of Israel if you don't belong to a certain nationality of Jews,
you and a dog have a lot in common.  (Somebody even told me that it is
an offense punishable by death to allow a non-Jew to read the Talmud, but
that sounds a little far-fetched to be true.)  If I heard wrong, then I'm
ignorant, and I need educating.

     Now I ask, is it an indecent act to hand out copies of the New Testa-
ment?  Is it an indecent act to be anything other than...No, I'm going to
refrain from finishing this sentence.

     
>Just don't mix it with conservative politics!  Cain tried that ("Am I
>my brother's keeper?"), and you know what happened to him.
>
>More to the point, Biblical days seem to have been pretty horrible.  I'll
>stick with the preposterous 20th century, thanks.
>-- 
>Col. G. L. Sicherman
>...decvax!sunybcs!gloria!colonel
>Subject: Re: it was good enough for grandpa
>Posted: Sun Mar  3 08:38:19 1985


     With all due respect, colonel, military rank does not impress me; 
credentials and accomplishments do.  

     Yes, the 20th century sure has been preposterous!  Since 1914, Babylon
has done nothing but get drunk on the blood of American martyrs.  We've waged
plenty of battles against Communism, but to this day we have not yet declared
war on it.  (And what could be a better definition of "Antichrist" than "those
who are against, i.e. anti-, Christ?  And who are more anti-Christ than the
Communists, except for maybe...well, never mind.)


     I guess maybe an even greater problem in America is not with Communism,
not with atheists, not with the Jews, or the schools, or the politicians, but
rather it is a deeper, less obvious problem.  American Christians just do not
realize who they are, what America is, and what God's promise to them and to
America comprises.  When American Christians begin to "see the light," the
Antichrist is in "deep sneakers."

     In Hoc signo,

     Don Black

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