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From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton)
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Subject: Re: to Keebler from Marchionni
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Date: Sun, 17-Mar-85 15:46:02 EST
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Rich,
	You may be being too hard on Marchionni here. He goes off
and talks about angels and whtnot which I don't claim to understand
anything about, but, for a minute, assume thathe is not lying to
you about his subjective religious experience. Okay -- either he is
insane or something happened. Now, if you think that net.religion is
read primarily by liars and lunatics, then I don't know why you bother.
If, on the contrary, you think that something did happen, then his
claim to Mike Huybesek was sound.
	Something happened; I have evidence; you won't accept it
because it is subjective; religious experience is always subjective;
I defy you to proove that it didn't happen. This is strong stuff.
Mike can either accept the claims or leave, but that might be the whole
idea. I still don't know why all people, everywhere, don't have religious
experiences, but a little voice keeps muttering ``becuase they don't
want to, fool!''.
	Be that as it may, I am still left with the knowledge that either
subjective experiences are real, or I am insane. If it pleases you and
Mike to think that I am insane, then I can live with this as well -- as
long as you don't try to rehabilitate me by force. If I am insane, then
I *like* being insane, which is enough for me.

Laura Creighton
utzoo!laura