Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cbdkc1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!ask From: ask@cbdkc1.UUCP (A.S. Kamlet) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Re: Black's ravings (comment about Sodom) - enough, already... Message-ID: <912@cbdkc1.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Mar-85 22:08:09 EST Article-I.D.: cbdkc1.912 Posted: Mon Mar 18 22:08:09 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Mar-85 07:52:22 EST References: <863@ames.UUCP> <365@oakhill.UUCP> <1002@topaz.ARPA> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus Lines: 35 : > These are the guys who, when they couldn't get to Lot's guest, instead raped > his daughter. I find it hard to believe that there original intentions were : : > don't think we need any other evidence to be reasonably sure that "know" is > being used as a euphemism. I also don't see why anybody believes that this > passage has anything to do with homosexuality. Sure, the actions they > originally proposed to take were homosexual. But when they couldn't they > were then satisfied with raping Lot's daughter. It doesn't sound to me like > these guys were particularly interested in homosexuality per se. And even > if they were, you forget that what they proposed to do was rape. No matter > what our stand on homosexuality per se, surely we all agree that homosexual > rape is wrong, and is far more serious than homosexual acts between > consenting people. Even ignoring the issue of the rights of guests, these > guys were turned to salt because of rape, not because of their sexual > orientation. > : : > exasperatedly yours, > Charles Hedrick > Director, LCSR Computing Facility, Rutgers University > Ruling Elder, Presbyterian Church (USA) Raped Lot's daughters? I find where Lot offered his daughters, but cannot find anything which says the citizens of Sodom took Lot up on his offer. You bring up a good point about rape being a capital offense. As I recall, rape of a married woman was, biblically, a capital offense. But I don't remember that rape of a virgin -- a very serious offense -- was punishable by death. -- Art Kamlet AT&T Bell Laboratories Columbus {ihnp4 | cbosgd}!cbrma!ask