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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: Paranoia
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Date: Tue, 19-Mar-85 19:47:41 EST
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Posted: Tue Mar 19 19:47:41 1985
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> 	     Rich, not to be personal, but  GROW UP!  Using obscenities in
> 	the context of this net is totally juvenile.  I spent seven years
> 	in the service of this nation, so my ears are used to it.  But there
> 	are ladies present.  

Excuse me.  Obscenities are perhaps the only words suitable to describe the
content of your articles.

> 	     Besides, Rich, you've shown your true colors as possibly an
> 	intolerant nerd.  You are (inadvertently or not) adding fuel to
> 	my comments about Judaism.  How can you say you are tolerant of 
> 	other religions when you so violently condemn me and mine?

I guess condemning your glorification of a Nazi and your claims that Jews are
a problem (albeit minor compared to the real problem you shuffled past us)
shows my intolerance.  As does my condemnation of any religious movement that
would sek to impose its morality onto other people.  I'm sorry.  To be
truly tolerant, I should allow you and your kind (the "sort of far out" Aryan
Nations types) to tell me what should be done with my life.  My apologies.
I guess this also shows that the Christians who kept silent as churchmice
throughout all of this were actually showing their "tolerance" for Black's
beliefs.  As I suspected.

> 	     I do believe I made a statement when I first submitted to this
> 	net that I don't believe in religious persecution.  I stand by that
> 	comment.

That's funny.  You didn't "stand by" that comment when you described the
problems to be resolved by returning (???) to your Christian way, when you
spouted hatred for homosexuals, Jews, and others.  More accurately, you
stepped on that comment, which you obviously made only for show.  Just saying
it doesn't make it so.  Your other words contradict this "comment".

> 	To Marchionni:
> 	     You're right, I could tolerate a true pluralistic society.

Yeah, right.  Make up your mind...

> 	     I just object to the kind of crap that I am starting to see
> 	here on the net--the absolute hypocracy that tolerates no adverse
> 	comments on Judaism, but yet I have Jewish acquaintences that think
> 	nothing of referring to Holy Communion as "Swallow the leader,"
> 	for example.  

I guess the Christian Right no longer feels the need to placate Jews by telling
them how much they are loved and accepted in their new order.  (Which is a lie
to begin with.)  Time for true colors to show.

> 	     Identity Christianity simply believes that Christians are the
> 	true Israelites, God's true Chosen People, and that America is the
> 	true Promised Land.  We believe that the covenants God made with
> 	the Israelites are still in full force and effect, and that we 
> 	Christians still have a responsibility to keep God's Law as he 
> 	laid  out in scripture.  We also believe that scripture tells us
> 	exactly what to expect from the Antichrist, how to identify
> 	the Antichrist, and how to conduct ourselves accordingly.

Why not tell us what place the "old Israelites" have in your scheme?  Funny,
if you believe that the covenant god had with the Jews has been "renegotiated"
with you and yours, why aren't the old Jewish laws binding on you?  Tell me,
is yours among the new Christian movements that claims that Mein Kampf is the
last real book of the bible?
-- 
Meet the new wave, same as the old wave...
      				Rich Rosen     ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr