Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cbscc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbsck!cbscc!pmd From: pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul Dubuc) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Divine omniscience Message-ID: <5013@cbscc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Mar-85 11:19:29 EST Article-I.D.: cbscc.5013 Posted: Tue Mar 19 11:19:29 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 20-Mar-85 05:55:49 EST References: <941@sjuvax.UUCP>, <1284@aecom.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories , Columbus Lines: 24 > As has been argued before, G-D exists in a timeless environment. > If so there is no past present or future. For G-D to know what I will do > is the same as to know what I did, because if there is no time there is no > did or will do. > > Eliyahu Teitz. Right. Supposed contradictions between God's omniscience and our free will arise from the assumption that God must exist within time as we do; that he knows the future in the sense that a fortune teller might. A better way is to think about his omniscience in terms of his perspective on the universe. For example, a being who has the vantage point of being able to see both the sun and earth at the same time (without existing at a great distance from each, of course--God does not exist in space either [omnipresence]) also has a view of the earth's future by several minutes. If the sun would burn out he would know it right away, several minutes in advance of those existing on earth. Knowledge of the future in this sense does not imply the knower caused the future event or willed it to happen. God does not know the future as such. Time is just another dimension in his perspective. -- Paul Dubuc cbscc!pmd