Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site trwatf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!trwatf!root From: root@trwatf.UUCP (Lord Frith) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Divine omniscience Message-ID: <774@trwatf.UUCP> Date: Wed, 20-Mar-85 19:45:39 EST Article-I.D.: trwatf.774 Posted: Wed Mar 20 19:45:39 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Mar-85 03:23:02 EST References: <941@sjuvax.UUCP> <1284@aecom.UUCP> Organization: TRW Advanced Technology Facility, Merrifield VA. Lines: 27 >> It seems we have no choice but to say that either human beings really >> *have* no free will, or that God does not exist. If I have not explained >> myself clearly, I will undoubtedly have a chance later to do so. > > As has been argued before, G-D exists in a timeless environment. > If so there is no past present or future. For G-D to know what I will do > is the same as to know what I did, because if there is no time there is no > did or will do. Which doesn't even address the issue... The above is a view derived from C.S. Lewis... I think. Anyway the existance of an omniscient being such as God does in no way eliminate your free will to carry out your actions. If God excersised his will over you then you might have a point. Consider: If God is omniscient and we close him up in a black box someplace, how does his ability to see your future violate your free will? It doesn't since he has no effect on your process to make decisions and act. -- UUCP: ...{decvax,ihnp4,allegra}!seismo!trwatf!root - Lord Frith ARPA: trwatf!root@SEISMO "And Frith made the world"