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From: brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: If the shoe fits...
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Date: Fri, 22-Mar-85 16:21:58 EST
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Posted: Fri Mar 22 16:21:58 1985
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In article <1214@decwrl.UUCP> black@nisysg.DEC writes:
>Some of their members are very active in the protest
>movement against the Marxist Internal Revenue Service.  (Oh, the IRS isn't
>Marxist, is it?  Take a look in the Communist Manifesto sometime.  Article
>2, I believe.)

Sorry, the IRS (of the United States, anyway) is not bound the the Communist
Manifesto.  Besides which the IRS has been used by US Presidents lately in order
to harrass leftists and other people they don't agree with.

>In fact, I invite commentary--sane, reasonably-presented 
>commentary.  (By the way, my MAIL is running 2 to 1 in favor.)

Just as I would have expected.  Other Christians really do support hatred and
bigotry, but haven't the balls you do to come out and make their views public.
As a side note, class this note in with those who do not support any position
you have stated on this net.

>bigots, racists, Nazis, etc.

If the shoe fits (and it is obvious that it does), wear it.
>     Why is it that invectives aimed at Christianity are tolerated,
>but legitimate questions about Judaism become "vile rhetoric?"
>     No, you're right--it ain't nice to rant untruths about Jews.  But 
>I have a lot of questions about what the truth is.  So do a lot of people.
>How am I to learn if I don't ask?

If you want to learn what Judaism is about, I suggest you start by
learning Hebrew and then reading the Bible.  Then find a rabbi and
talk for several years (in your case it may take longer) about the
things you don't understand.  You don't start by repeating the worst
bigotry you have heard about them with a "isn't this so!" tacked on to
the end each sentenence.

>for its attempts to investigate by forensic means the Holocaust of recent
>history.  It posted a $50,000 reward for anyone who could prove beyond a
>reasonable doubt that the Holocaust actually took place in Europe under
>Hitler.  That reward has not yet been collected.

If they don't accept the evidence of the few thousand who escaped, eyewittness
accounts by the soldiers who cleaned up the bodies, etc. what do they mean
by proof?

>(The Jewish Defense League is by its own admission a branch of the Israeli
>army, founded by an American rabbi who is now a member of the Israeli
>knesset.  What in blue blazes is the Israeli army doing conducting armed
>operations against American civilians on American territory?)

Another vicious lie!  Didn't your mother teach you that you shouldn't lie?
Didn't your religion?
>     What death camps??  

See above.

I cannot take any more!
-- 
Richard A. Brower		Fortune Systems
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