Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: St. Thomas Aquinas Message-ID: <761@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Mar-85 20:24:22 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxd.761 Posted: Mon Mar 25 20:24:22 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 26-Mar-85 06:16:57 EST References: <189@cvl.UUCP> Organization: Huxley College Lines: 25 >>>Rich, you seem to think that the arguments you bring against christianity >>>are new. They're not. Most of the things you've brought up were argued >>>against by Aquinas, and there are lots of responses to them through the >>>years. I don't suppose you've bothered reading any of them, though. >>>[WINGATE] > >>Aquinas believed that women were produced by "defective" circumstances >>(Ia.92.I): if conception took place under completely "natural" circumstances >>males would always result ("for the active force of the male seed intends to >>produce something similar to itself, perfect in its masculinity"), but if >>some peculiarity intervened - a defect in sperm or seed or the prevalence of >>a moist south wind at the time of conception - females would be born. >>[BROWER?] > Would someone please post a definition of the word "ad hominem"? > [RALPH HARTLEY] I'm not sure how it would be useful here. Wingate spoke about the eloquence of the logic of Aquinas as being used in a period of rational christian enlightenment, and Brower showed just hoe "enlightened" that was---replete with the same misconceptions and preconceptions that have dogged such thinking for centuries. -- "Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr