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From: teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz)
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Subject: Re: Re: Purimshpiel II: Net.Religion.Jewish Song Parody
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Date: Mon, 18-Mar-85 16:17:07 EST
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> Since  Rosen  became so upset a few months ago, when I stated that under
> Jewish Law he would be Jewish, I do not know why he cares.
> 
> But as for true Judaism, my Ashkenazi hakamim including Jacob  of  Emden
> and  the  Vilna Gaon have been of the opinion that Sefardi shittah is of
> higher Qedushah than the Ashkenazi shitah.
> 
> In Israel,  there  is  neither  halakic  justification  for  either  the
> existence  of  a  chief Ashkenazi rabbi no halakic justification for the
> continued observance of Ashkenazi minhagim.
> 
> As for  Purimshpile,  this  is  one  example  of  many  borrowings  from
> Christian  practise which Ashkenazim have made.  Since 99% of Ashkenazim
> are apostate I must wonder whether  perhaps  Ashkenazim  have  not  been
> prepared  for  their  apostacy  by  ill-considered  borrowing  over  the
> centuries.


	Do you have any sources for these statistics? They are quite radical.
 Also, why is Ashkenazi Judaism not authentic? You are shooting off anti-
 Ashkenazi rhetoric again with no regard for the truth. Please refrain from
 your diatribes because they only sicken the majority of the net. Sorry to 
 word this condemnation so strongly, but this isn't the first time you've
 done this.

> 
> I know that Yom Kippur among Ashkenazim seems much more Churchlike  than
> Jewish.    The   Hassidic   Qabalah   is   basically   Slavic   Orthodox
> Neo-Platonism.  Shaving the heads of married women  is  a  Slavic  pagan
> custom.
> 
> When  I  have  spent  passover  with  Ashkenazim,  I  experience "hayinu
> `abadim" but I have never seen evidence that we are "bnei horim."   This
> is also typically slavic.
> 
> The  list  is  endless  and  goes  from  the most trivial to fundamental
> religious and political outlook.
> 
> In fact the ba`alei teshubah  movement  exactly  parallels  a  religious
> revival  currently  taking  place among the slavic orthodox.  In Russia,
> the ba`alei teshubah movement has in fact even been a  partial  reaction
> to the adoption of Russian orthodoxy by various Jewish dissidents in the
> 60's.
> 
> It simply may be time for Ashkenazim to renounce the  decadent  detritus
> of the Ashkenazi diaspora in perhaps a form Jewish Wahhabianism.
> 
> I  find  Yehoshua` Lebovitz admiration for the Wahhabi's since he is the
> Jewish analogy of what the Wahhabi's are trying to stamp out in Islam.

	Yakim,

	We are aware of your opinion of us vusvus scum that pervade the net.
 If you don't like our brand of Judaism then fine. But, your articles are 
 doing nothing to change any situation. You argue so vehemently against
 Ashkenazim, that I fear you are hiding something. Maybe an ancestor long
 ago who was Ashkenazi ? (:-))

			Eliyahu Teitz.