Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!js2j From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.physics,net.sci Subject: Re: Perpetual Motion & oil companies (perpetual motion? Horse puckey!) Message-ID: <694@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Mar-85 16:59:16 EST Article-I.D.: mhuxt.694 Posted: Tue Mar 19 16:59:16 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 20-Mar-85 06:27:10 EST References: <261@eneevax.UUCP> <634@houxa.UUCP> <2059@sun.uucp>, <9288@brl-tgr.ARPA> <867@ecsvax.UUCP> <274@ihlpg.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 18 Xref: watmath net.misc:7576 net.physics:2260 net.sci:296 > > I've heard of this before, that it's being suppressed, and no wonder, you > > think the oil companies want it manufactured? > > The same thing happened in Britain, several people came up with excelent > ideas for battery powered cars that would have a good milage rate, without > the need for millions of car batterys to hold the charge. Their ideas were > patented and then *bought* by the large oil companys. While it may or may not be true that oil companies have bought up and filed patents for worthwhile inventions, I hope none of you net-readers actually think that they've done this with a perpetual motion machine. The definition of a perpetual motion machine (it puts out more energy than it takes in) precludes its actual existance, *unless* the law of conservation of mass and energy turns out to be just a suggestion. This seems *very* unlikely. -- Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j "What sheems to be the problem, Ossifer?"- T. Kennedy