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From: hav@dual.UUCP (Helen Anne Vigneau)
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Subject: Re: Dividing Line
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Date: Thu, 14-Mar-85 15:47:11 EST
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=> this is interesting.  how come then that almost all my female
=> acquaintances say they are doing something "with the girls" regardless
=> of age when they are going somewhere with exclusively female company?
=> BTW, the vast majority of my female acquaintances are engineers and
=> most of them are extremely sensitive to the term "girls" when men use
=> it to refer to them but not when other women do except when it is
=> obviously used condescendingly.  the corresponding thing happens
=> for "boys".
=> 
=> Herb Chong...

I think it's a lot like referring to a Black person as a "nigger."  If you're
another Black, the person being referred to will probably hear what you say
as friendly or colloquial, whereas if you are not Black, the person being
referred to will probably hear what you say as racist.  What the members of a
group refer to themselves as is not necessarily what they want non-members
referring to them as.  Does this help?

Helen Anne

     {ucbvax,ihnp4,cbosgd,hplabs,decwrl,unisoft,fortune,sun,nsc}!dual!hav 

             If a man does not keep pace with his companions,
             perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer.
             Let him step to the music he hears,
             however measured or far away.