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From: zubbie@ihlpa.UUCP (Jeanette Zobjeck)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: A Small Victory; Not at All
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Date: Mon, 18-Mar-85 20:32:38 EST
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Posted: Mon Mar 18 20:32:38 1985
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> > Actually, I do not understand why people spend so much time on such trivial
> > tasks as eradicating gender specific pronouns from the language.
> 
> Because it is not always clear that everyone must be EITHER a "he" OR a "she".
> -- 
> {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)

*** REPLACE THIS Aargghh . . . .        ***

The relationships which develop and the manner in which useful work
goes on in this society is biased by which gender the people involved
are. This is not a conscious thing and many people are working hard
trying to change this but is still a fact of life. 

The search for a non-gender identifying pronoun (s)  is really
a cop-out since if the biases which cause so much trouble where
sex/gender are concerned didnot exist then there would not really
be a need to hide (comoflage) the gender of the people involved.

The oriental tradition/philosophy of the ying/yang (sp) expresses
best that feminine (masculine) are not sex specific. They are
gender specific and more and more men and women are learning
that there are aspects within themselves which are traditionally
thought of as belonging to the opposite gender. It is the society
taught fear instilled in all of us of showing these portions 
of ourselves which has been the root of discrimination of sex/gender.

Think what things might be like if men were not afraid of that part
of themselves which they classed as feminine, qualities of compassion,
tenderness, the need to allow emotion room to happen.etc
Perhaps looking at some of the great statesmen, artists, authors etc
would provide a good place to start answering that thought.

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Every one is entitled to their own stupid narrowminded opnions
these are mine

jeanette l. zobjeck
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