Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site bunker.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!bunker!garys From: garys@bunker.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Comment to T. C. Wheeler Message-ID: <773@bunker.UUCP> Date: Mon, 1-Apr-85 11:46:53 EST Article-I.D.: bunker.773 Posted: Mon Apr 1 11:46:53 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 3-Apr-85 01:14:24 EST References: <3513@alice.UUCP> Organization: Bunker Ramo, Trumbull Ct Lines: 32 > T. C. Wheeler says: > > > Now, as I have often said before, and I will say > > again, ABORTION FOR THE PURPOSES OF BIRTH CONTROL > > IS MURDER. > > Either abortion is murder or it is not. If it is, > the purpose is irrelevant. Au contraire, ascertaining the purpose is essential to determining whether an act resulting in the death of a human being is murder. If I shoot someone (for example), it could be an accident, self defense, or one of several degrees of murder; the determination is based on the court's assessment of my purpose. Murder, as I understand the term, means to wrongfully and knowingly cause a human being's life to end. Thus, abortion is usually NOT murder, because (presumably) the woman getting the abortion and the person performing it do not believe that they are killing a human being. I.e., I think that abortion in general is a wrongful taking of life, but not a knowing taking of life. (As an aside, occassionally someone claims that pro-lifers want to throw everyone who has obtained or performed an abortion into jail; it should now be clear that it is possible to be opposed to something without wanting to throw its proponents into jail.) Gary Samuelson ittvax!bunker!garys