Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rtech.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!amdahl!rtech!jeff From: jeff@rtech.ARPA (Jeff Lichtman) Newsgroups: net.consumers,net.analog Subject: Re: power meters Message-ID: <267@rtech.ARPA> Date: Wed, 27-Mar-85 03:33:29 EST Article-I.D.: rtech.267 Posted: Wed Mar 27 03:33:29 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 1-Apr-85 03:42:59 EST References: <500@harvard.ARPA> <973@dual.UUCP> <264@rtech.ARPA> <974@dual.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Relational Technology, Berkeley CA Lines: 26 Xref: watmath net.consumers:2076 net.analog:245 > > ... AC power equals RMS voltage times > > RMS current times the cosine of the phase angle between them. > > This is strictly speaking true. However > > 1) Most devices are designed to have a power factor close to one. In > this case the power consumed does equal scalar voltage times scalar > current. For example flourescent lamps have a capacitor solely for > power factor correction. Motors running with a load on them can have power factors close to one, but when the load decreases the power factor decreases and gets close to zero. For example, the power factor of a refrigerator motor is close to one when the motor is starting, and much lower when it is running normally. > 2) Domestic electricity meters measure scalar voltage times current and > the person in question was interested in optimizing for minimum > electricity bill and not particularly for minimum power. > Paul Wilcox-Baker. Domestic electricity meters *do* measure true energy. They will even run backwards if there is a net outflow of energy. My father, who has a graduate engineering degree, assures me that this is true. -- Jeff Lichtman at rtech (Relational Technology, Inc.) aka Swazoo Koolak