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Subject: Re: net.music.gdead (w/Rumor)
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>> What I also propose is that all of you deadheads should no longer withhold
>> your traffic. Bury this forum if you can, maybe some of the people who oppose
>> such change for no discernable reason will change their minds.
>> dec-rhea!dec-katadn!bottom
> 
> [FLAME ON]
> There.  That sounds like a reasoned, thinking person's way of settling the
> issue.  It's apparent that at least some of the people supporting the
> notion of a separate group seem to be stuck on some sort of childish notion
> that having your "own" group offers your musical taste some sort of
> "legitimacy" that it wouldn't have otherwise.  ("See, my group has its own
> group.  Nyaah.")  As evidenced above.

Of course whether or not people have the wrong reason for wanting a newsgroup
shouldn't prevent the creation assuming there is proper justification (the
"right reason") for such a group...

> A warning:  "bury" the forum, and I'm sure it can be arranged that automatic
> article posters can "bury" the dead group.  No pun intended.
> -- 
> Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen.
> 					Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr

Not quite the first time that someone gets burned on a "bury" quote...
Perhaps, and I can't speak for him, bottom was encouraging people
like me, who have information that is of interest to deadheads and few
others to go ahead and post it to net.music.  In my case I am waiting until
I can clear up some inaccuracies and I am hoping for the creation of
net.dead, because I anticipate flames when I post a (compacted) set of
playlists from 1975 to present.  No doubt some people will be convinced that
I am attempting to bury net.music, but that is not at all the case... there
have been many people who have asked me for this information.

Now for the rumor (from Mikel Box 4403 Covina CA 91723 {send him some
S.A.S.E. to receive his periodic newsletter}):

    * was there a confrontation led by Mickey Hart on Friday where the
      band told Jerry he must do something about his problems?
    * did Jerry respond to this by leaving the house he was staying
      in for weeks at a time and return to the panhandle at a spot
      near where the Grateful Dead lived in the 60's?
    * was Jerry's response of going to the Panhandle and sit in his
      car free basing cocaine a crying out, both for the simpler
      days of the 60's and a crying out for help?

Hmmm...  It interesting to see interviews in which Jerry and Mickey are asked
what brought the end to the wonderful times at Haight-Ashbury.  Jerry says
~the cops~  Mickey says ~the junkies.~  Mickey is quite anti-addict; he keeps
himself very fit.  I can see how there might be such a confrontation.

	--Cliff