Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ecsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary From: dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re: Copyrights and piracy Message-ID: <994@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Apr-85 11:45:41 EST Article-I.D.: ecsvax.994 Posted: Tue Apr 9 11:45:41 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Apr-85 02:23:41 EST References: <1529@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Duke U Comp Ctr Lines: 49 > Hence, unregistered works are not really protected. The > instruction pamphlet that the Registrar of Copyrights supplies to those > intending to register makes it clear that the whole point of registration is > to provide you with just the proof you might need in court. My assertion was in response to a posting claiming registration was in fact a prerequisite for a suit, which is simply not so. The claim that "unregistered works are not really protected" belied by a whole pile of case law. (A recent well-publicised example being the victory of Ellison and Bova over a television network.) In fact, the ability to register an unpublished work is an innovation less than a decade old. Please understand that I am not suggesting that registration is unwise as it leads to the practical advantage you describe and grants further rights under the statute (including punitive damages). > > Copying a part of a book for limited use > > is perfectly legal. > Not necessarily. It is usually tolerated because enforcement of the copyright > protection is not possible, but take a moment to read the notices in a couple > of books [...sample copyright notice and warning curse...] > Such a statement is crystal clear - you copy my book, even one page, and if I > find out about it I'll roast you over a slow fire. I don't know about barbequing or compelled firewalking, but you'd have no standing in court. Like the ubiquitous NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR INJURIES... signs, the book notice has no legal force. A copyright page notice cannot rewrite the statute, which very explicitly says that you CAN copy portions of the work under the defined limits of fair use. Take a moment to read the statute, or the excellent American Library Association publication that also summarises the case law. (By the way, there is even a provision of MANDATORY licensing of some works, with royalty being set by a government tribunal.) > The whole premise of intellectual property is just that - though such things > are intangibles, ie, how do you weigh the thought required to produce a line > of code, they are still very real. They are an actual investment made in > expectation, or at least hope, of a return. > Dick Binder (The Stainless Steel Rat) Dear Stainless, I agree with you. Sorry I didn't make that sufficiently clear. What I was getting at was that there is nothing magical about rights to physical property. I consider intellectualy property every bit as "real" (in the philosophical, not legal, sense) as physical. -- D Gary Grady Duke U Comp Center, Durham, NC 27706 (919) 684-3695 USENET: {seismo,decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary