Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hou2e.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!mcnc!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!hou2e!gv From: gv@hou2e.UUCP (A.VANNUCCI) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.physics Subject: Re: perpetual motion(hydrogen burning cars) Message-ID: <509@hou2e.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Mar-85 14:36:43 EST Article-I.D.: hou2e.509 Posted: Mon Mar 25 14:36:43 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Apr-85 06:31:01 EST References: <608@vortex.UUCP> <491@spp2.UUCP>, <706@mhuxt.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 43 Xref: linus net.misc:6138 net.physics:2073 > In article <608@vortex.UUCP> lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) writes: > >All these stories about miracle inventions being suppressed are usually > >just so much rot. I've heard the same story for years about broadcast > >power and Tesla. I have yet to see any evidence that it is other than > >a fairy tale. > > While I tend to agree with Lauren that there is a lot of garbage being > passed around as truth, I have to wonder why our cars aren't powered > by liquid hydrogen (a non-polluting fuel) rather than gasoline. And a > host of other similar questions. There is all too much evidence that > people tend to follow their own, very limited, self-interest, rather > than look for ways to benefit themselves while providing for the > common good. A few years ago I read a very interesting article in Scientific American about the technology of hydrogen-burning cars. The hydrogen was not to be stored in liquid form in pressurized and cooled tanks (too dangerous and too impractical) but rather as a hydride in a low-pressure room-temperature tank. The technical problem to be overcome was finding a suitable material for the hydrogen to form a hydride with; i.e., a material that would be sufficiently inexpensive to produce, effective and environmentally safe. Of course, this research for a *practical* hydrogen-powered car was being supported entirely by those "ogre" companies that are so often blamed for suppressing innovations, etc. etc. etc. I work for a big company and, based on my experience, the opposite is true. Without the support and conducive environment that my employer provides me with, I would be hard pressed to come up with any research results that are worth anything. There are always exceptions and I'm sure that in many cases big business is to blame for stifling innovation and suppressing initiative. However, I'm convinced that, by and large, when people complain about big companies suppressing innovative research they usually don't know what they are talking about. Giovanni Vannucci AT&T Bell Laboratories HOH R-207 Holmdel, NJ 07733 hou2e!gv