Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!zehntel!vlsvax1!qantel!dual!decwrl!daemon From: daemon@decwrl.UUCP (The devil himself) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Gay/Straight Differences Message-ID: <1480@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Apr-85 15:16:16 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.1480 Posted: Wed Apr 3 15:16:16 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Apr-85 03:09:11 EST Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 120 The opinions expressed here are not those of |d|i|g|i|t|a|l Equip- mant Corporation but are of my own observations. How We Differ From Them ======================= I'm going to hang up my Jason pseudonym for this posting since it's a topic that came up over the weekend in a long winded conversation with friends and anyway; you all know who Jason really is! I was out walking along Boylston Street in Boston with a friend on Sunday and a carload of punks pulled alongside us and started shouting "Hey queer punks, wanna get your pansy asses fucked?" etc. My companion turned red in the face and bolted into the street at the car; shouting back obscenities. The car took off at high speed. Neither Dan nor I exhibit any noticable effemin- ate traits. Why did these jokers single us out for harassment? When we got back to his place his roomate and a few friends were there. We spent the evening discussing how we differ and how straight people can still pick us out. The only thing that the group could figure was that the way we were dressed tipped the punks off; Levi 501's, bomber jackets, short cropped hair, moustaches and keys. So what! the straight kids are emulat- ing the image now. It's getting so you can't tell the gays from straights without pink triangles tatooed on our arms. I've given this a lot of thought at other times and it sometimes bothers me that people can see through me in situations where I'm not out. Sometimes I get very self conscious about the way I present myself. Here are a few items we threw around the dining room table; * Not all gay men dress the part of the urban clone. I feel comfortable wearing this type of drag and it compliments my appearance. I've dressed this way well before it became fashionable for gay city men and it nev- er caused a problem in the past. I've noticed that we tend to wear our clothes well; much better than our heterosexual brethren. The jeans, T shirts, hair; both facial and on our heads, looks better. I suppose that this is an attention getter. Ya just don't see that many straight men exhibiting nice buns or baskets of death in jeans. As much as they brag about their machoness; they're uncomfortable with it. A straight friend of mine once confided in me, "I wish that you guys wouldn't flaunt what you've got". When I asked him what bothered him he answered, "It just makes me feel uncomfortable; like I don't measure up as a man" He also finds it hard to deal with masculine acting gay men and admits that it's a threat to his own masculinity. He's also jealous that I'm much better built than he is; and he's younger. Ok! our mode of dress can be a sub- tle tip off to them. * Gay men I know tend to be very articulate in their speech habits. I don't know why this is but most of the guys I've met come across sounding like FM radio announcers; the non-effeminete ones at least. Is it because we weigh each word more carefully before speaking; afraid that we'll blow our cover? I notice it most when I'm in front of a group at the office, giving a business presentation. A lot of the straight men slur their words and in general come across as beer swilling rednecks. I get up there and feel self conscious because I'm aware that my speaking voice is much more precice. I get asked where I learned to talk like that; it attracts att- ention. We also tend to be more soft spoken than our counterparts. More than a few people I've come out to told me my voice was a dead giveaway. * Office and leisure time conversation can also point out who's gay and who isn't. Ok! Some of you may love sports and can chat about baseball scores with the best of em, but I can't and most people I know can't either. I never developed an interest in watching a bunch of grown men chase each other around a playing field to get a ball or to whizz a piece of hard rubber across the ice into the opponent's net. I enjoy both ice and roll- er skating, biking, swimming and tennis. I also admire the style and grace of skaters, skiiers and gymnasts in the olympic games; that I'll watch on the tube. This isn't good enough. I'm continually asked if I caught the football, baseball, basketball and hockey games on the tube by co-workers and am treated with aloofness when I admit to not being interested in sports. I told a concerned co-worker that I just think that these sports are a waste of time and I've got better things to do. His response was that I had to be either a Commie or queer. Ever notice that? If you're not into comoetitive sports, there must be something wrong with you! * Body language is another area where a lot of us differ. A lot of it is subconscious and I'm becomming more aware of the way I stand or gesture. Thank goodness that crossing the legs at the knees carries less stigma than it used to. If I'm standing talking to someone, I tend to place my hands on my hips which a lot of straight men don't. A lot of us hold our cigarettes slightly different than straights. I was in a straight singles bar and observed the way the men held their ciggies. They suck on the filter as if they were ciphoning a gas tank through a hose. They also crush out the butts with about 1200 foot pounds of force. A lot of the more macho straights I've watched seem to shadow box or dance around when they talk. When they walk they strut; sort of bow legged, like they just got off a horse. The gay men I've observed seem to move with more grace. When they talk there's more animation in the eyes and face. It's almost as if we're more comfortable with ourselves than they are; I may be wrong. * I'll now get on to cruising; straights do as much of it as we do. I just recently became aware of this after watching people in the halls at work and those on the street. I used to feel guilty about cruising until I watched the Busweiser boys ogling the womenfolk. We can be singled out in this area if we're not out. I was at lunch with a group of co-workers and the men were cruising and commenting about the women. I was quiet, which aroused suspicion. I wasn't aware of it but my eues were following a particularly handsome man stuffed into a pair of tight faded jeans. One man in our party asked me what I was looking at. I told him I wasn't looking at anybody and he replied, "you most certainly were, you were checking that guy's ass out. Hey we'de better watch out for Ray. I think he's going queer on us, Har Har". If I'm in a closeted situation I now SET CRUISE/INHIBIT in the company of the other men so as not to attract attention. This is one way I can usually pick out gay men on the street and at work; by watching who their eyes follow. Too bad; straight men notice this also. A straight female friend told me she could pick out gay men about 75% accuratly; it was all in the eyes, not just who got cruised but the eyes themselves. She told me that she noticed a lot of gay men have a softness to their eyes; a sort of veiled look which she had a sensitivity too. These are just a few areas that my friends and I talked about. In some ways it's sort of scary that we're that easily picked out in the crowd by straights. In other ways it's not so bad; it lets them know that we're everywhere. Has anyone else done any thinking on this subject and have you noticed other ways in which we present ourselves differently from the general public?