Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ptsfc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!zehntel!vlsvax1!qantel!dual!ptsfa!ptsfc!cdh From: cdh@ptsfc.UUCP (Chris Harvey) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Their Music: Grateful or Dead? Message-ID: <375@ptsfc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 6-Apr-85 22:20:26 EST Article-I.D.: ptsfc.375 Posted: Sat Apr 6 22:20:26 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Apr-85 07:36:19 EST References: <284@mhuxr.UUCP> Reply-To: cdh@ptsfc.UUCP (Chris Harvey) Organization: Pacific Bell, San Francisco Lines: 40 >The band members are all superior musicians, and the Dead's continued >vitality is a tribute to their skill. The examples are legion: the smooth >transition from "St Stephen"'s 8/8 to "The Eleven"'s 11/4 on LIVE DEAD; >the delicate interaction between the two guitars and the congas on RECKONING's >"Cassidy"; the red-hot 12 bar blues solo of "Little Red Rooster" on DEAD SET; You are obviously missing the whole idea of the Dead. No one ever claimed that their albums were even worth listening to. As a matter of fact, the Little Red Rooster that you refer to was cut considerably for that album. > >But those jams! In a word, SLOPPY!!! There is nothing wrong with collective >improvisation, but too often they just mark time while waiting for someone >to have a decent idea that the jam can coalesce around. Once again, you are speaking of something you know nothing about. You do not hear me talking about mental retardation, because I don't know as much about it as you obviously do. GET A CLUE!. > >The other problem with the Dead is their, uh, singing. Tomcats in heat is >more like it. That is far less serious a problem in rock, a medium >famous for insisting that musicality is not a necessary condition for success. Even a deadhead knows there is no such word as musicality. Once again, a CLUELESS remark. > >Finally, the Dead have been together some 20 years, and their current style >(blues and boogie with a dash of country) solidified around 1970. They have >thus been playing the same things, and sounding the same for 15 years. >There is merit to finding a suitable style and perfecting it, but as discussed >above, they have stayed with their sloppy, imperfect, lengthy jams. >It has now gotten to the point of ossification. We'll be a little more rational here. If you would listen to a tape from 1972 and one from 1984, you (or instead, someone with intelligence) would easily see that the band HAS progressed and changed. Listening only to albums is just not a good evaluation of the Grateful Dead. -- Chris Harvey,Pac Bell,SF ============================================================ "Joke 'em if they can't take a .... " (dual!ptsfa!ptsfc!cdh)