Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ubvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amdcad!cae780!ubvax!tonyw From: tonyw@ubvax.UUCP (Tony Wuersch) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: I've got it Message-ID: <140@ubvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Mar-85 23:43:22 EST Article-I.D.: ubvax.140 Posted: Thu Mar 21 23:43:22 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Mar-85 03:06:50 EST References: <310@ho95b.UUCP> Organization: Ungermann-Bass, Inc., Santa Clara, CA Lines: 40 > Something that's suddenly bugging me is the construction "I've got", > as in "I've got to go to the store", sometimes also "I have got to > go to the store." > > What does the "got" do? > "I have to go to the store" says the same thing. > > My guess on its origin is that people starting to say "I have" > automatically contracted to "I've", and then the sentence didn't > feel like it had a verb, so they put in the got (but why got?). > -- > Robert Neinast (ihnp4!ho95c!ran) > AT&T-Bell Labs My own "native language user" sense (I'm not sure I accept the idea that native language users have the right answers to these questions, but anyhow ...) would respond this way: That guess has some merit to it, since "I have" loses its sense of obligation ("must") when it's contracted to "I've", so "got" has to be used to get the sense of obligation back. It allows the contraction to "I've" to be automatic without seeming inappropriate in some sentences. To more tries: a) "got" often indicates the immediate future: "I've got to go" as "I have to go now." "Have" without "got" often indicates distant future, the time for which schedules get set: "I have to go" as "It's on my schedule to go today." Distinctions between immediate and distant time are major features of creoles and dialects, like Black English. "Got" could have passed over from a creole. b) "got" sometimes indicates lack of choice. "I have to go" can be an insult in some situations if it's followed by leaving, whereas "I have got to go" can carry hints of emergency or forced obligation. "I have got to go" cuts off the rejoinder, "Do you have to go?", for instance. Tony Wuersch {amd,amdcad}!cae780!ubvax!tonyw