Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dual.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!dual!hav From: hav@dual.UUCP (Helen Anne Vigneau) Newsgroups: net.books,net.nlang Subject: Re: Re: Kludge and dictionaries Message-ID: <984@dual.UUCP> Date: Thu, 4-Apr-85 19:23:31 EST Article-I.D.: dual.984 Posted: Thu Apr 4 19:23:31 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Apr-85 02:42:02 EST References: <906@ratex.UUCP> <220@vaxwaller.UUCP> <2314@mit-hermes.ARPA> <226@vaxwaller.UUCP> <2330@mit-hermes.ARPA> Organization: Dual Systems, Berkeley, CA Lines: 27 Xref: watmath net.books:1628 net.nlang:2864 <*munch*> => I was sorry to hear that "kluge" is "clever" in German; I liked => to think that the word came from the name of a manufacturer of "kludgy" => printing machinery--a "kludgy" derivation. But it's hard to support that with => such an obvious alternative. Traditionally the anomalous spelling with a 'd' => in it has been more common, but perhaps the mass of people now being exposed => to computer jargon will return(?) to the German "kluge". => John Purbrick A few things here. First, in answer to *everybody's* question, I've seen both spellings: kluge and kludge. I found in *Jargon* that they attribute the etymology to German. HOWEVER, the German word (which indeed does mean clever) is spelled klug and pronounced kloog (i.e., soft (?) G as in gag). As in, you know, gag me with all this cleverness. :-) Wisdom for the greater good . . . Helen Anne {ucbvax,ihnp4,cbosgd,hplabs,decwrl,unisoft,fortune,sun,nsc}!dual!hav If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.